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    Re: Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.

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    Re: Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    The issue of the welfare of the child as a compelling state interest was never raised, and as such, you cannot argue this.

    This does not touch on the issue raised here.

    I'm not arguing "preserve the racial integrity of its citizens". I'm arguing "the welfare of the child as a compelling state interest".

    As such, while I thank you for your time, the information you provided here does not address the issue.
    I do not know of any case that specifically mentions the welfare of the child as a reason for preventing interracial marriage (which I believe is what you are asking for), but that is because it has never been an issue, for good reason.

    I expect that we will find out soon if it is, and the courts will undoubtably use Loving v. Virginia as the main precedent.
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    Re: Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    No, we can not.

    You are trying to change the subject.

    Please stay on topic or kindly leave the thread.
    Not changing it so much as jumping to the logical conclusion ahead of time.
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    Re: Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alex View Post
    I do not know of any case that specifically mentions the welfare of the child as a reason for preventing interracial marriage (which I believe is what you are asking for), but that is because it has never been an issue, for good reason.
    It may simply never have been raised.
    But, that doesnt mean its not a legitimate argument, given that the welfare of the child has been held as a compelling state interest in numerous other instances.
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    Re: Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Ah OK. I have no idea Jerry, none.

    Growing up I was more concearned with playing D&D than race to be honest. Much like other kids.



    I figure he is either a biggot or just came back from a bad Klan meeting?

    Again I have no idea.
    Admitting that you lack critical information, how can you take any position at all on his actions?

    Maybe this Justice is simply ignorent of the facts regarding actual mixed couples. Jumping right to the 'racism' card discredits real instances of racism.

    Hanlon's razor FTW
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    Re: Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    Not changing it so much as jumping to the logical conclusion ahead of time.
    The topic is race, not gender, as this will also apply once gay-marriage is legal.

    Please stay on topic.

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    Re: Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    How would they be unfit?
    According to the article the justice denied the marraige out of concern for any potential children the couple may have. Why else would he be concerned for the children?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    It's rather ignorant of you to assume that skin color is the only thing which defines a race. While these may not hinder a mix'd couple's ability to raise a child, there is a host of genetic differences between races. More relevant, however, are the cultural differences, which can be striking.
    I would love to see any scientific data that shows any genetic or medical disorders as a result of mixing of two different raced parents that aren't also present in children of liked raced parents.

    Cultural differences can be striking but this isn't limited to race. Has he also denied Irish and Russians from marrying? Has he denied the marriage of a Yankees fan and a Redsox fan for fear of the children? Ignorance is assuming skin color equates to major cultural differences.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Please bring real examples to the table or don't even bother.
    It was an example of absurdity.
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    Re: Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Take your retarded word games somewhere else, I have no time for them.
    I have a hard time believing your time is valuable if you are spending it on Internet debate forums.

    Freedom is beneficial first of all because it makes people happy. That's it most direct benefit; there is an exhileration in simply being free and being able to do address reality according to your inclinations. A rather esoteric but important benefit. If people long go without it, they will become discontent and probably rebel and cause chaos.

    Then there is the fact it gives people the ability to adapt, economically, to confront obstacles and adapt to new situations according to their own specifications, usually resulting in a better outcome for themselves than if it had been micromanaged by a collective. In short, a multitude of practical benefits.

    Problem is, you can't priotize freedom exclusively because it leads to conditions where it is likely to be lost in chaos and general unhappiness. Certain parameters have to be set, like prohibitions against rape and murder. Generally, the intrinsic value and general usefulness of freedom for both individuals and society makes it so you have to let people do as they wish unless a sufficiently compelling crisis emerges.

    Any hazing experienced by racially mixed children is speculative in that it might not actually happen to the extent imagined, it might not have the negative influence envisioned, or not to a crippling degree, or indeed, that it could even build character and result in the child becoming a better person overall. Prohibiting interracial marriages is not a sensible policy.
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    Re: Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.

    I know this is just a shot in the dark, but what if this couple did not intend to have children? The premise behind denying them a marriage license is so completely full of ****, it is turning my eye's brown reading it....
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    Re: Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    I know this is just a shot in the dark, but what if this couple did not intend to have children?
    What makes you think the JoP would have then denied the license?

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