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    Re: Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Who knows maybe a mixed race child could grow up to be President of the USA.
    Best post of the thread hands down!
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lightdemon View Post
    But do you think it is justifiable for the reason the judge cited?
    To be fair, he refused to do ther service himself.

    The couple can still get married by another Justice.

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    Re: Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alex View Post
    Loving vs. Virginia. Had the Court found a compelling state interest to protect children from interracial marriage, they never would have ruled in favor of interracial marriage.
    The issue of the welfare of the child as a compelling state interest was never raised, and as such, you cannot argue this.

    They actually overturned a decision that was meant to stop interracial children from being born:

    "... the state court concluded that the State's legitimate purposes were 'to preserve the racial integrity of its citizens,' and to prevent 'the corruption of blood,' 'a mongrel breed of citizens,' and 'the obliteration of racial pride,' obviously an endorsement of the doctrine of White Supremacy."
    This does not touch on the issue raised here.

    I'm not arguing "preserve the racial integrity of its citizens". I'm arguing "the welfare of the child as a compelling state interest".

    As such, while I thank you for your time, the information you provided here does not address the issue.

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    Re: Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.

    Oh no, the "I have a right" crowd has once again shut down a chance at an intelligent discussion.

    There are valid and often incompatible dynamic between blacks and whites. Would anyone care to discuss that or are we going to descend into court rulings as if any of us honestly give a **** about them?

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    Re: Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    The issue of the welfare of the child as a compelling state interest was never raised, and as such, you cannot argue this.


    This does not touch on the issue raised here.

    I'm not arguing "preserve the racial integrity of its citizens". I'm arguing "the welfare of the child as a compelling state interest".

    As such, while I thank you for your time, the information you provided here does not address the issue.
    Quite right.

    Nowhere in what I've read on this story has the justice claimed to deny interracial marriages on the basis of racial purity.

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    Re: Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    The issue of the welfare of the child as a compelling state interest was never raised, and as such, you cannot argue this.


    This does not touch on the issue raised here.

    I'm not arguing "preserve the racial integrity of its citizens". I'm arguing "the welfare of the child as a compelling state interest".

    As such, while I thank you for your time, the information you provided here does not address the issue.
    You can't make a reasonable argument that any material harm which comes to this particular child (or set of children) as a result of their mixed racial heritage outweighs the gravity of the freedoms at stake. They are too many and too important and the rationale is too speculative. You can't minimize a great many freedoms based on a single, relatively small contingency. Especially not when the Supreme Court has ruled against the practice.
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    Re: Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Oh no, the "I have a right" crowd has once again shut down a chance at an intelligent discussion.

    There are valid and often incompatible dynamic between blacks and whites. Would anyone care to discuss that or are we going to descend into court rulings as if any of us honestly give a **** about them?
    This thread is not about the "incompatible dynamics" of blacks and whites. But just for ****s and giggles, what are these dynamics that are incompatible?

    I grew up in a racially mixed family and I can honestly say I have no clue what you are referring to.
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    Re: Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    You can't make a reasonable argument that any material harm which comes to this particular child (or set of children) as a result of their mixed racial heritage outweighs the gravity of the freedoms at stake. They are too many and too important and the rationale is too speculative.
    Who gives a **** about "freedoms"?

    I care about what's beneficial.

    You can take your "freedom" and shove it up your ass.

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    Re: Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    You can't make a reasonable argument that any material harm which comes to this particular child (or set of children) as a result of their mixed racial heritage outweighs the gravity of the freedoms at stake.
    Maybe, maybe not.
    What if I could?

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    Re: Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Who gives a **** about "freedoms"?

    I care about what's beneficial.

    You can take your "freedom" and shove it up your ass.
    Freedoms are beneficial. They are also constitutionally guaranteed.

    Maybe, maybe not.
    What if I could?
    You can't in this social and historical context, that is, in the actual reality of the United States of America, which in regards to this issue is as unmovable as a mountain. In theory, anything anywhere is possible. It may be that prohibiting marriage between races in some society or another is the best practice at the time, although hopefully only as an intermediary stage and not a permenant condition. As it is, the associations of parenting with so many of our vital freedoms, freedoms both enjoyable for their own sake and also for the general economic advantages they offer, make is impossible to rationalize prohibitions on interracial marriage at this point in time. The guy is, quite simply, being irrational to think he can continue with this practice without any repurcussions.
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