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    Re: Arctic ice cap 'to disappear in future summers'

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Well, Al Gore's net wealth has increased from $1 million to $100 million since he watched Bush be inaugurated.

    I need me some global warming, too, for my bank account.
    I've been trying to get some folks together and start a solar and wind power business. I'm going to get me some of that global warming, too.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Arctic ice cap 'to disappear in future summers'

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If I'm paying the bill, I have the inaliable right to set my thermostat where ever I please.
    Based on the direction from the supplier that you are paying the service for.
    "Gold gets dug out of the ground in Africa, or someplace. Then we melt it down, dig another hole, bury it again and pay people to stand around guarding it. It has no utility. Anyone watching from Mars would be scratching their head."
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    Re: Arctic ice cap 'to disappear in future summers'

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    To be eligible for that the government must be doing something to remove your right. What law is removing your right to own a truck, boat, or motorcycle?

    What law removes your right to adjust your thermostat?
    None, yet. The day is coming, though.
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    Re: Arctic ice cap 'to disappear in future summers'

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Based on the direction from the supplier that you are paying the service for.
    I don't receive direction from anyone in regard to what my thermostat is set on.
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    Re: Arctic ice cap 'to disappear in future summers'

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    None, yet. The day is coming, though.
    So our freedoms are just hypothetical being infringed on? Good to know.
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    Re: Arctic ice cap 'to disappear in future summers'

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I don't receive direction from anyone in regard to what my thermostat is set on.
    You do on the amount of power/energy you are allowed to consume within a specific pay period.
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    Re: Arctic ice cap 'to disappear in future summers'

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation."

    Show me where in the Constitution where the government has the authority to regulate what property I own.

    As far as my thermostat goes,

    "guards against searches, arrests, and seizures of property without a specific warrant or a "probable cause" to believe a crime has been committed."
    The resources you use to do all the things you do are not public property, but private. You pay a water bill, an electricity bill, and you buy fuel from a company to power your vehicles. They can cut you off at any time they see fit.

    Furthermore, there is no right which prevents the government from regulating the way you acquire those things. You aren't entitled to them under the Constitution. Those resources are subject to supply and demand which falls under the economic domain, not the government domain. The Constitution has nothing to do with what private companies do and don't give you; it is a set of limitations on government.

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    Re: Arctic ice cap 'to disappear in future summers'

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    So our freedoms are just hypothetical being infringed on? Good to know.
    PBO isn't going after the oil companies, thereby killing jobs? He didn't nationalize the auto industry and mandate that they stop building certain vehicles? Slowly, but surely, our rights are being infringed on.
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    Re: Arctic ice cap 'to disappear in future summers'

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    PBO isn't going after the oil companies, thereby killing jobs? He didn't nationalize the auto industry and mandate that they stop building certain vehicles? Slowly, but surely, our rights are being infringed on.
    What rights do you lose by companies making a car have 25 MPG instead of 15?
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    Re: Arctic ice cap 'to disappear in future summers'

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    The resources you use to do all the things you do are not public property, but private. You pay a water bill, an electricity bill, and you buy fuel from a company to power your vehicles. They can cut you off at any time they see fit.
    They can cut me off if I don't pay the bill, but they can't cut me off at will.

    Furthermore, there is no right which prevents the government from regulating the way you acquire those things. You aren't entitled to them under the Constitution.
    Those resources are subject to supply and demand which falls under the economic domain, not the government domain. The Constitution has nothing to do with what private companies do and don't give you; it is a set of limitations on government.[/QUOTE]

    I'm entitled to own whatever legal property I choose.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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