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    Re: Sources: Checketts to drop Limbaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    It is factually difficult to show that a person (or news org) had "actual malice" when making a statement. But that's not the same as having a high standard of proof -- as in, beyond a reasonable doubt, say. You can have a lower standard of proof yet still not be able to show actual malice, which is why suits for libel/slander/defamation against public figures don't prevail very often.

    Now, in this case, CNN compounded itself when it refused to retract its statement, which could go to showing a reckless disregard for the truth, which works out to be the same. Will it? Dunno.
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    Re: Sources: Checketts to drop Limbaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I think anyone being honest about this whole thing understands that this is clearly slander and libel aimed directly at Rush to cause enough of a stink to directly impact his business and finances. That in my book just ain't right. And I can't understand anyone who would be jubilant about it occurring.
    I don't know that people intentionally misrepresented Rush's words. The things said had been at one time reported, and then repeated when this happened. It could be intentional, but I don't know that, and can see how it could be unintentional. As an example, in the first thread on this topic, I repeated that players where complaining about a couple of his statements. Did he actually make those statements? I have no idea, I simply commented that this was the complaint of a few players.
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    Re: Sources: Checketts to drop Limbaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I don't know that people intentionally misrepresented Rush's words. The things said had been at one time reported, and then repeated when this happened. It could be intentional, but I don't know that, and can see how it could be unintentional. As an example, in the first thread on this topic, I repeated that players where complaining about a couple of his statements. Did he actually make those statements? I have no idea, I simply commented that this was the complaint of a few players.
    Some of the statements were really old and taken out of context. Othes were intentionally misrepresented to portray Rush as something other than what he was. The Crips and Bloods thing was misrepresentation, the McNabb thing was the same. It's all clear attack on him to purposefully make him lose business and financial deals.
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    Re: Sources: Checketts to drop Limbaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I don't know that people intentionally misrepresented Rush's words. The things said had been at one time reported, and then repeated when this happened. It could be intentional, but I don't know that, and can see how it could be unintentional. As an example, in the first thread on this topic, I repeated that players where complaining about a couple of his statements. Did he actually make those statements? I have no idea, I simply commented that this was the complaint of a few players.

    Oh come on now....Not intentional? Yeah ok....Tell me when the last time you heard a liberal commentator called divisive on national news, or on the floor of Congress?


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    Re: Sources: Checketts to drop Limbaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Oh come on now....Not intentional? Yeah ok....Tell me when the last time you heard a liberal commentator called divisive on national news, or on the floor of Congress?


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    Are you trying to deny that Limbaugh is divisive?
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    Re: Sources: Checketts to drop Limbaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Some of the statements were really old and taken out of context. Othes were intentionally misrepresented to portray Rush as something other than what he was. The Crips and Bloods thing was misrepresentation, the McNabb thing was the same. It's all clear attack on him to purposefully make him lose business and financial deals.
    And that is a strong argument that it may have been. My point is that I do not know, and to make accusations based on guesses is very much what some are complaining about here. It is possible, I am not denying this.
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    Re: Sources: Checketts to drop Limbaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Are you trying to deny that Limbaugh is divisive?

    No, I am calling the meme that only conservative commentators can be such is full of crap!

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    Re: Sources: Checketts to drop Limbaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Are you trying to deny that Limbaugh is divisive?
    So what if he is? Do you, or I, or anyone have the right to interfere with someone trying to conduct business just because we think they're "divisive"?

    If Randi Rhodes wanted to participate in an owner's group that's trying to buy the Phoenix Coyotes, do conservatives now have the right to make erroneous statements about what she might have said on the radio, in an attempt to block her participation? If Alan Colmes wanted to buy into the group that owns the New York Knicks, should the right now make blog entries somewhere on the Internet about how Alan once said that "Mothers should sacrifice their children to Satan on Halloween" and that "Charles Manson is a political prisoner"? I remember reading somewhere that turnabout is fair play - is it?

    Personally, I think they should have let Rush continue in the ownership group. If the comments he made are that "divisive", then I'd imagine that there'd be players who wouldn't want to play for the Rams - irregardless of how financially lucrative it might be. Instead of stopping him from owning the Rams, let him own them, and see just how deep his pockets are - how much money the Rams would have to spend to counteract the negative publicity if a player like Terrell Owens or Donovan McNabb refused to play for the Rams because of what Rush said.

    Here's a little something to consider -- Before he was elected Governor of Texas, George W. Bush was managing general partner of the Texas Rangers MLB team from 1989-1994. There is talk that when Bug Selig resigns as Commissioner of Major League Baseball, that President Bush will be asked to be the next Commissioner. Whether or not he will accept the position remains to be seen. But, if he does, what will the left do?
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    Re: Sources: Checketts to drop Limbaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by SpotsCat View Post
    So what if he is? Do you, or I, or anyone have the right to interfere with someone trying to conduct business just because we think they're "divisive"?

    If Randi Rhodes wanted to participate in an owner's group that's trying to buy the Phoenix Coyotes, do conservatives now have the right to make erroneous statements about what she might have said on the radio, in an attempt to block her participation? If Alan Colmes wanted to buy into the group that owns the New York Knicks, should the right now make blog entries somewhere on the Internet about how Alan once said that "Mothers should sacrifice their children to Satan on Halloween" and that "Charles Manson is a political prisoner"? I remember reading somewhere that turnabout is fair play - is it?

    Personally, I think they should have let Rush continue in the ownership group. If the comments he made are that "divisive", then I'd imagine that there'd be players who wouldn't want to play for the Rams - irregardless of how financially lucrative it might be. Instead of stopping him from owning the Rams, let him own them, and see just how deep his pockets are - how much money the Rams would have to spend to counteract the negative publicity if a player like Terrell Owens or Donovan McNabb refused to play for the Rams because of what Rush said.

    Here's a little something to consider -- Before he was elected Governor of Texas, George W. Bush was managing general partner of the Texas Rangers MLB team from 1989-1994. There is talk that when Bug Selig resigns as Commissioner of Major League Baseball, that President Bush will be asked to be the next Commissioner. Whether or not he will accept the position remains to be seen. But, if he does, what will the left do?
    People do have a right to take their business where they choose. If people would avoid watching a team because Limbaugh is a part owner, that is perfectly fine. If it was a liberal, the same would be true. The NFL owners have a right to say they do not want a particular owner(I believe) because he would either be bad for the NFL, or bad for business.

    If there was libel, there are legal recourses, and Limbaugh is perfectly free to go that route. I will not complain nor condemn him for doing so.
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    Re: Sources: Checketts to drop Limbaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I hope I have been clear, if some one has libeled Rush, and he wants to sue, I got no problem with that either. I do not know myself whether this is the case or not.
    Then what the hell were we fighting about earlier? You are basically saying the same thing I am but then you piped in, deigning to call me selective in my outrage over a challenge I placed to have someone reference this supposed racism that led to his loss of financial gain.

    I am so confused by you sometimes and it has nothing to with not knowing whether you are a chick or dude.

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