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Mom Arrested for Washing Kid's Mouth With Soap

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By TODD WRIGHT
Updated 9:43 AM EDT, Wed, Oct 14, 2009

A Palm Bay woman and her boyfriend were arrested Monday for child abuse after the couple went old school to punish their 8-year-old daughter for swearing.
They washed her mouth out with soap.
We don't know about you, but we would petition President Obama and Congress to make it mandatory for every parent to carry a bar of Irish Spring in their back pockets with all the profanity kids use today.
Police claim Adriyanna Herdener and Wilfredo Rivera went too far by placing a bar of soap in the girl's mouth and letting it stay for 10 minutes. Herdener did not intervene in the discipline.
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Our ancestors were obviously bad parents and child abusers to say the least. The country became a world power at the hands of child abusers. ;)
 
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Why would law enforcement be involved with this at all?
 
Child abuse
 
Something is missing in this story or else they're not telling the whole truth about what really happened. It says that she was taken to the hospital because she vomited. To the hospital? For vomiting? Must have been some vomiting. I wonder what they really put in her mouth and for how long.

Sorry, not buying the story as it is printed.
 
Arcana XV said:
Something is missing in this story or else they're not telling the whole truth about what really happened. It says that she was taken to the hospital because she vomited. To the hospital? For vomiting? Must have been some vomiting. I wonder what they really put in her mouth and for how long.

Sorry, not buying the story as it is printed.
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Trying eating some soap, I'm sure it would make you feel a little sick.
 
American said:
Trying eating some soap, I'm sure it would make you feel a little sick.
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Depends on the brand, some soaps can be quite delicious.
 
Arcana XV said:
A little sick is one thing. She was obviously sick enough the parents thought she needed medical attention.
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Not enough info to know.
 
I know, we were raised by real a-holes. :mrgreen:
 
Arcana XV said:
A little sick is one thing. She was obviously sick enough the parents thought she needed medical attention.
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prolonged spewing causes dehydration.
 
American said:
Not enough info to know.
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Couple who forced child to eat soap free

Well, here's some more. These people are either sadists or abysmally stupid. Or both.

BREVARD COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - It was in a house off Shenandoah Drive in Palm Bay, in which investigators say a little girl was punished. According to Palm Bay Police , the mother's boyfriend, Wilfredo Rivera, made her chew on soap for ten minutes, while the child's mother, Adriyanna Herdener, watched.

"I think people need to educate themselves more about using an object or foreign substance in a child's body. Whether it's soap or hot sauce. You just never know how somebody's going to react," said neighbor Christina Chiarilla, who works in child care.

Investigators say the child was crying, vomiting and foaming at the mouth. According to police, the boyfriend wouldn't let the girl rinse out her mouth until she cleaned up her mess.

Reports state the child's lips, throat and tongue became swollen and was in pain. That's when the mom asked her boyfriend to take the 8 year old to the hospital.
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Sickos.
 
Free medical care?
 
The mother's boyfriend did this, and the mother stood by.

See folks this is why you're not supposed to get involved in romantic relationships while you're raising children. The risks of child abuse are greater when you do, and the stresses of the step-parent dynamic is the leading cause of second-marriage divorces.

I wonder where the child's father is.
 
Was just going to say that Jall.

I've got no problem with a little old school discipline. I don't have issues with parents that want to give a little swat on the behinds of their young kids, or do the "wash mouth out with soap", or other things that many of us probably experienced at some point in youth.

Its when these things are taken way over the line that its a problem. When the little swat on the behind becomes welts and bruises on a weekly basis. When rubbing soap against the tongue becomes forcing the kid to chew on a bar for 10 minutes.

Its kind of like a single glass of beer, while not particularly healthy for you, has some good effects. If you down 10 of them in an hour, there's going to be problems. However the idiot that downs 10 of them in an hour doesn't prove that you shouldn't have your single glass once in a while.

I think we've gone WAY over board with what we consider "child abuse" now for some people, but at the same time I think that hyper sensitivity has came about because often times the idiots that go to the extremes are propped up as if they're the average, every day, typical way people go about those acts and thus it becomes this huge taboo.

If this was actually just "cleaning their mouth out with soap", taking the bar and making them run their tongue over it once or twice like I remember seeing happen to my sister when she wouldn't stop cursing as a little kid, I'd probably be siding with American. However chewing on it for 10 minutes goes from a strict punishment and lesson to flat out abuse in my book.
 
I won't make a long post about my thoughts on this. I don't support parents washing their child's mouth out with soap nor spanking them.....ever. Let's teach our children that it's okay for a larger person to hit a smaller person--that hitting/sticking an object in the mouth is a way to solve problems. Yeah, that's what needs to be done. :roll:
 
aps said:
I won't make a long post about my thoughts on this. I don't support parents washing their child's mouth out with soap nor spanking them.....ever. Let's teach our children that it's okay for a larger person to hit a smaller person--that hitting/sticking an object in the mouth is a way to solve problems. Yeah, that's what needs to be done. :roll:
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How do you correlate the diminished use of corporal punishment with the increase in school disciplinary problems over the past 30 years. I know I'll get an emotional answer, like I support beating children.
 
American said:
How do you correlate the diminished use of corporal punishment with the increase in school disciplinary problems over the past 30 years. I know I'll get an emotional answer, like I support beating children.
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Do you have a study that indicates school disciplinary problems have increased over the past 30 years?
 
I shall always remember the taste of Ivory. Thanks mom!
 
aps said:
I won't make a long post about my thoughts on this. I don't support parents washing their child's mouth out with soap nor spanking them.....ever. Let's teach our children that it's okay for a larger person to hit a smaller person--that hitting/sticking an object in the mouth is a way to solve problems. Yeah, that's what needs to be done. :roll:
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So I take it your kids never recieved presents from "Santa Claus", money from "The Tooth Fairy", or found eggs hid by the "easter bunny" right? Or is it okay to teach your kids its perfectly fine to lie?

So I take it you've never sent your kid to bed without dinner, or force them to eat food they don't want? Or is it okay to teach kids its fine to starve people, or force them to do things they don't want to do?

Never sent them to time out or put them in the corner or sent them to their room, because you don't want to teach them its okay to exert power over people if they're weaker then you?

I can respect your notion of not feeling those things are right, but your reasoning for giving it just doesn't jive if you do a lot of other things routinely done by parents.
 
Kandahar said:
Do you have a study that indicates school disciplinary problems have increased over the past 30 years?
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Do you have eyes to see with? No one carried a gun when I went to school.
 
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