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    Re: Mom Arrested for Washing Kid's Mouth With Soap

    I shall always remember the taste of Ivory. Thanks mom!

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    Re: Mom Arrested for Washing Kid's Mouth With Soap

    Quote Originally Posted by Baralis View Post
    I shall always remember the taste of Ivory. Thanks mom!
    Oh you one of those kids. My mom always strawbwerry scented soap from Neimans

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    Re: Mom Arrested for Washing Kid's Mouth With Soap

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    I won't make a long post about my thoughts on this. I don't support parents washing their child's mouth out with soap nor spanking them.....ever. Let's teach our children that it's okay for a larger person to hit a smaller person--that hitting/sticking an object in the mouth is a way to solve problems. Yeah, that's what needs to be done.
    So I take it your kids never recieved presents from "Santa Claus", money from "The Tooth Fairy", or found eggs hid by the "easter bunny" right? Or is it okay to teach your kids its perfectly fine to lie?

    So I take it you've never sent your kid to bed without dinner, or force them to eat food they don't want? Or is it okay to teach kids its fine to starve people, or force them to do things they don't want to do?

    Never sent them to time out or put them in the corner or sent them to their room, because you don't want to teach them its okay to exert power over people if they're weaker then you?

    I can respect your notion of not feeling those things are right, but your reasoning for giving it just doesn't jive if you do a lot of other things routinely done by parents.

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    Re: Mom Arrested for Washing Kid's Mouth With Soap

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Do you have a study that indicates school disciplinary problems have increased over the past 30 years?
    Do you have eyes to see with? No one carried a gun when I went to school.
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    Re: Mom Arrested for Washing Kid's Mouth With Soap

    Quote Originally Posted by Baralis View Post
    I shall always remember the taste of Ivory. Thanks mom!

    Wow, your mom let you taste Marilyn Chambers?
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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    Re: Mom Arrested for Washing Kid's Mouth With Soap

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    How do you correlate the diminished use of corporal punishment with the increase in school disciplinary problems over the past 30 years. I know I'll get an emotional answer, like I support beating children.
    Come on, American. You know me better than that.

    I think the issue is discipline--and it's a matter of how one does it. I just don't think a child needs to be touched in order to suffer consequences and learn from their mistakes.

    My siblings and I are all decent human beings, and our father spanked us to the point that it was child abuse. Do I think it worked? No. I was scared of him as a child as a result. I dont' think being scared of a parent is a good thing. JMO

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    Re: Mom Arrested for Washing Kid's Mouth With Soap

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Do you have eyes to see with? No one carried a gun when I went to school.
    So you don't have any actual evidence that this is even true, other than your personal anecdotal experience.
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    Re: Mom Arrested for Washing Kid's Mouth With Soap

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    So I take it your kids never recieved presents from "Santa Claus", money from "The Tooth Fairy", or found eggs hid by the "easter bunny" right? Or is it okay to teach your kids its perfectly fine to lie?
    He's 2. I haven't decided whether we will celebrate Christmas to the extent that Santa Claus exists or whether we will celebrate the Easter Bunny (not Easter), as he's being raised Jewish. (I'm not kidding.)

    And your examples are terrible! Santa, Tooth Fairy, and Easter Bunny are happy things. I don't know anyone who would say, "Those are examples of parents lying to their children."

    So I take it you've never sent your kid to bed without dinner, or force them to eat food they don't want? Or is it okay to teach kids its fine to starve people, or force them to do things they don't want to do?
    I think I have sent him to bed without dinner one time, but I was very matter of fact about it. "I made you this for dinner. If you don't like it, you don't have to eat it. But I'm not going to make you another meal because you don't like what I made for you." He will never be forced to eat anything he doesn't like. I had that done to me, and I won't do it to him....ever.

    Never sent them to time out or put them in the corner or sent them to their room, because you don't want to teach them its okay to exert power over people if they're weaker then you?
    A time out has never been perceived as child abuse. I have given out some time outs, but I'm not a jerk about it. Again, very matter of fact. "You hit Mommy. It's not okay to hit Mommy, so you need to sit here for 2 minutes and think about it." I haven't had to give him a time out in ages because I think he learned from the other ones what "not" to do.

    I can respect your notion of not feeling those things are right, but your reasoning for giving it just doesn't jive if you do a lot of other things routinely done by parents.
    Letting him know that my kitchen is not a restaurant and that it's NOT okay to hit others are totally appropriate consequences. When I have punished him, I try to be as respectful as I can. I haven't always succeeded, and in those circumstances, I have apologized to my son--something my parents NEVER did, which shows respect to him, IMO.

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    Re: Mom Arrested for Washing Kid's Mouth With Soap

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Our ancestors were obviously bad parents and child abusers to say the least. The country became a world power at the hands of child abusers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    How do you correlate the diminished use of corporal punishment with the increase in school disciplinary problems over the past 30 years. I know I'll get an emotional answer, like I support beating children.
    Is that all you can refer to? That's merely selective incorporation of raw data rather than a statistically reliable empirical analysis. For something like that, you have to refer to the likes of Berlin et al.'s Correlates and Consequences of Spanking and Verbal Punishment for Low-Income White, African American, and Mexican American Toddlers:

    This study examined the prevalence, predictors, and outcomes of spanking and verbal punishment in 2,573 low-income White, African American, and Mexican American toddlers at ages 1, 2, and 3. Both spanking and verbal punishment varied by maternal race/ethnicity. Child fussiness at age 1 predicted spanking and verbal punishment at all 3 ages. Cross-lagged path analyses indicated that spanking (but not verbal punishment) at age 1 predicted child aggressive behavior problems at age 2 and lower Bayley mental development scores at age 3. Neither child aggressive behavior problems nor Bayley scores predicted later spanking or verbal punishment. In some instances, maternal race/ethnicity and/or emotional responsiveness moderated the effects of spanking and verbal punishment on child outcomes.
    Which aspect of the empirical literature are you referring to?

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    Re: Mom Arrested for Washing Kid's Mouth With Soap

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    How do you correlate the diminished use of corporal punishment with the increase in school disciplinary problems over the past 30 years. I know I'll get an emotional answer, like I support beating children.
    Parents, by and large, have not replaced the disciplinary methods that have been taken off the table.

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