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    Soldier dies after receiving smoker's lungs in transplant

    I think if this happened in the US there would be a lawsuit.

    Soldier dies after receiving smoker's lungs in transplant - CNN.com

    LONDON, England (CNN) -- A leading UK hospital has defended its practice of using organs donated by smokers after the death of a soldier who received the cancerous lungs of a heavy smoker.

    Corporal Matthew Millington, 31, died at his home in 2008, less than a year after receiving a transplant that was supposed to save his life at Papworth Hospital -- the UK's largest specialist cardiothoracic hospital, in Cambridgeshire, east England.

    Papworth Hospital released a statement saying using donor lungs from smokers was not "unusual."

    The statement added that the hospital had no option but to use lungs from smokers as "the number of lung transplants carried out would have been significantly lower," if they didn't.
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    Re: Soldier dies after receiving smoker's lungs in transplant

    During the same period 84 people died on the waiting list. If we had a policy that said we did not use the lungs of those who had smoked, then the number of lung transplants carried out would have been significantly lower.
    Unfortunate, but at the same time we have to ask if he would have lived even to that point without the transplant. It seems to me that more lives have been saved by using organs such as those than have been lost.

    Any word on whether the patient knew the lungs were from a smoking donor?

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    Re: Soldier dies after receiving smoker's lungs in transplant

    I can't wait for government run health care. It's gonna be just great, I tell ya.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Soldier dies after receiving smoker's lungs in transplant

    I think that cases like these demonstrate the need for an organ sale market. Surely someone would want the smoker's lungs, and they could probably get them at a discount price. And those who wanted to hold out for a non-smoker's lungs could do so as well.

    I think that would be much better than the current system of some people randomly getting good donated lungs, some people randomly getting bad donated lungs, and some people not getting new lungs at all because they die before they reach the top of the waiting list.
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    Re: Soldier dies after receiving smoker's lungs in transplant

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I think that cases like these demonstrate the need for an organ sale market. Surely someone would want the smoker's lungs, and they could probably get them at a discount price. And those who wanted to hold out for a non-smoker's lungs could do so as well.

    I think that would be much better than the current system of some people randomly getting good donated lungs, some people randomly getting bad donated lungs, and some people not getting new lungs at all because they die before they reach the top of the waiting list.
    Let's put organs up for sale to the highest bidder. That'll work just fine.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Soldier dies after receiving smoker's lungs in transplant

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Let's put organs up for sale to the highest bidder. That'll work just fine.
    Instead of making juvenile sarcastic comments that clearly display your lack of intellect, perhaps you'd care to explain what problems you foresee with such a system so that I can address them.
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    Re: Soldier dies after receiving smoker's lungs in transplant

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Instead of making juvenile sarcastic comments that clearly display your lack of intellect, perhaps you'd care to explain what problems you foresee with such a system so that I can address them.
    The world's not perfect, life isn't certain and death is inevitable.

    I can't get over how people act as if, somehow, they're going to get out of here alive. People should spend less time trying to stop the inevitable. That's the biggest problem that I see.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Soldier dies after receiving smoker's lungs in transplant

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Instead of making juvenile sarcastic comments that clearly display your lack of intellect, perhaps you'd care to explain what problems you foresee with such a system so that I can address them.
    This assumes that he's able to recognize a non-juvenile, sarcastic comment.

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    Re: Soldier dies after receiving smoker's lungs in transplant

    I've seen a number of cadavers broken down for parts, and it always seemed to me that they got rejected very easily. I cant imagine a surgeon transplanting sooty lungs.

    Oh well, at least it was "free" health care, that makes it all right.
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    Re: Soldier dies after receiving smoker's lungs in transplant

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Let's put organs up for sale to the highest bidder. That'll work just fine.
    I like it.
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