The Prof
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problems insuperable, obstacles to obamacare:
1. it creates incentives for employers to drop coverage
2. folks then will buy for themselves, their expenses capped at 13% of income
3. the govt is to pick up the balance, exploding the deficit
4. it lets the young and healthy off the hook by lowering the fines on those who refuse to insure themselves, skyrocketing premiums for the sick and elderly
5. it puts unmanageable mandates on to the states, ask feinstein and reid
6. it criminalizes the uninsured, just like driving is handled in CA
7. it cuts medicare and medicaid a half a tril
8. it scores 10 years of revenues and only 7 years of cost
9. it generalizes funding for abortion, ask the catholic bishops
10. its enforcements against the inclusion of illegals is weak
11. it puts terrible taxes on small business, incubus of job creation, in the midst of our deperession
12. it taxes the rich
13. it taxes benefit packages, offending 170 letter signers in pelosi's place
14. no tort reform, no addressing of "defensive medicine" costs
15. no purchasing plans across state lines
16. it leaves 25 million uncovered
17. it taxes makers of medical devices, sure to increase the costs of hearing aids, wheelchairs, prosthetic hips...
18. the difficulty of merging baucus and HELP appears impossible to overcome
19. the nuclear option, senate reconciliation, is off the table after 10-15, thursday, day after tomorrow
20. progressives in the house are pissed at baucus and snowe, they want a public option, they are revolted by the taxing of benefits (unionists)
21. too much has been given to entice the flirtatious senator from maine
22. bluedogs are irate over the cramming of PO into 3200, and abortion
23. house/senate reconciliation is gonna be a bitch
24. insurance companies will run massive ad campaigns ala harry and louise, which killed hillary-care last time
25. it attemps salary controls on insurance industry employees, possibly extra-constitutionally
26. there are constitutional questions as well concerning the mandates on individuals
27. but i'm not interested in supreme court issues, i'm talking the politics, on both floors
28. since employers are practically encouraged to drop their plans, the president's promise that you can keep what you like rings hollow
29. leadership is lost---across the board tax increases are now in writing, in violation of the central tenet of the campaign; the taxing of benefits; the unkeepability of packages folks are satisfied with; etc
30. the "day after decision dictum," which states: at all places and all times thru history, when nations are faced with crisis the human reaction is teeth gnashing and hair tearing, what should we do, what should we do---UNTIL leadership takes steps---then, instantly, within 24 hours, all indecision is replaced with certainty, even anger---it's called REACTION
31. snowe came along in committee (LOL!) simply to maintain her relevance, ask msnbc's lawrence odonnell, former chief of staff of senate finance back in 1993
32. finding massive savings in M&M in waste, fraud and abuse---why wait, if it's so doable to trim it out, then trim it out NOW, why does the party require a bill?
33. cbo's scoring of baucus depends on downward re-schedulings of medicare outlays, a promise that's been mandated every year for a decade and always put off, or so says elmendorf
34. pelosi has been working on and making massive changes to 3200 in a closet, secretly, reid will now do the same to merge baucus and HELP, the body of the party and the entire public is being frozen out
35. thirty dem senators refused to sign a letter to reid demanding the PO, yet leadership is insistent on forcing it in
that's a lot of trouble spelled out
most dp LIBS don't support most of the stuff above
how do YOU feel about half trillion dollar cuts to M&M?
how do you think mr conrad's and ms lincoln's constituents feel?
screwing with seniors is suicide in american politics
baucus is the lowest threshold
congrats on not being officially killed, quite, yet
encoding into law even one third of the 35 points above spells the doom of the democratic party
have at it
1. it creates incentives for employers to drop coverage
2. folks then will buy for themselves, their expenses capped at 13% of income
3. the govt is to pick up the balance, exploding the deficit
4. it lets the young and healthy off the hook by lowering the fines on those who refuse to insure themselves, skyrocketing premiums for the sick and elderly
5. it puts unmanageable mandates on to the states, ask feinstein and reid
6. it criminalizes the uninsured, just like driving is handled in CA
7. it cuts medicare and medicaid a half a tril
8. it scores 10 years of revenues and only 7 years of cost
9. it generalizes funding for abortion, ask the catholic bishops
10. its enforcements against the inclusion of illegals is weak
11. it puts terrible taxes on small business, incubus of job creation, in the midst of our deperession
12. it taxes the rich
13. it taxes benefit packages, offending 170 letter signers in pelosi's place
14. no tort reform, no addressing of "defensive medicine" costs
15. no purchasing plans across state lines
16. it leaves 25 million uncovered
17. it taxes makers of medical devices, sure to increase the costs of hearing aids, wheelchairs, prosthetic hips...
18. the difficulty of merging baucus and HELP appears impossible to overcome
19. the nuclear option, senate reconciliation, is off the table after 10-15, thursday, day after tomorrow
20. progressives in the house are pissed at baucus and snowe, they want a public option, they are revolted by the taxing of benefits (unionists)
21. too much has been given to entice the flirtatious senator from maine
22. bluedogs are irate over the cramming of PO into 3200, and abortion
23. house/senate reconciliation is gonna be a bitch
24. insurance companies will run massive ad campaigns ala harry and louise, which killed hillary-care last time
25. it attemps salary controls on insurance industry employees, possibly extra-constitutionally
26. there are constitutional questions as well concerning the mandates on individuals
27. but i'm not interested in supreme court issues, i'm talking the politics, on both floors
28. since employers are practically encouraged to drop their plans, the president's promise that you can keep what you like rings hollow
29. leadership is lost---across the board tax increases are now in writing, in violation of the central tenet of the campaign; the taxing of benefits; the unkeepability of packages folks are satisfied with; etc
30. the "day after decision dictum," which states: at all places and all times thru history, when nations are faced with crisis the human reaction is teeth gnashing and hair tearing, what should we do, what should we do---UNTIL leadership takes steps---then, instantly, within 24 hours, all indecision is replaced with certainty, even anger---it's called REACTION
31. snowe came along in committee (LOL!) simply to maintain her relevance, ask msnbc's lawrence odonnell, former chief of staff of senate finance back in 1993
32. finding massive savings in M&M in waste, fraud and abuse---why wait, if it's so doable to trim it out, then trim it out NOW, why does the party require a bill?
33. cbo's scoring of baucus depends on downward re-schedulings of medicare outlays, a promise that's been mandated every year for a decade and always put off, or so says elmendorf
34. pelosi has been working on and making massive changes to 3200 in a closet, secretly, reid will now do the same to merge baucus and HELP, the body of the party and the entire public is being frozen out
35. thirty dem senators refused to sign a letter to reid demanding the PO, yet leadership is insistent on forcing it in
that's a lot of trouble spelled out
most dp LIBS don't support most of the stuff above
how do YOU feel about half trillion dollar cuts to M&M?
how do you think mr conrad's and ms lincoln's constituents feel?
screwing with seniors is suicide in american politics
baucus is the lowest threshold
congrats on not being officially killed, quite, yet
encoding into law even one third of the 35 points above spells the doom of the democratic party
have at it
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