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    Re: GOP's Snowe will vote for Democratic health bill

    hehe ... all the people viewing this thread right now are Mainers:

    jackalope, Scorpion89+, submarinepainter+

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    Re: GOP's Snowe will vote for Democratic health bill

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    LOL!

    wow, is someone stunningly simplistic

    snowe ensures passage thru senate---

    LOLOLOL!
    No it didn't you have no idea what your talking about when it come's to Sen. Snowe what it does mean it goes to the floor for debate and mind you Sen. Snowe in the past has done this only to turn around and veto against the items he help get sent to the floor.

    You don't want to get into a discussion with me on Olympia you will lose very hard on this topic. Trust Me Prof. this is one area I'm going to ask you not to get into.

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    Re: GOP's Snowe will vote for Democratic health bill

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    hehe ... all the people viewing this thread right now are Mainers:

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    Yea and the thing is no one outside of us Mainers really know how Olympia votes and how she reacts.

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    Re: GOP's Snowe will vote for Democratic health bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    Yea and the thing is no one outside of us Mainers really know how Olympia votes and how she reacts.

    oops, doggie and Prof are here now too. Gotta keep the Maine-speak down

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    Re: GOP's Snowe will vote for Democratic health bill

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    oops, doggie and Prof are here now too. Gotta keep the Maine-speak down
    Ahuy we might want to head out to the Warf for some Steamers and Butter and enjoy a nice cold Moxie.

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    Re: GOP's Snowe will vote for Democratic health bill

    problems insuperable, obstacles to obamacare:

    1. it creates incentives for employers to drop coverage

    2. folks then will buy for themselves, their expenses capped at 13% of income

    3. the govt is to pick up the balance, exploding the deficit

    4. it lets the young and healthy off the hook by lowering the fines on those who refuse to insure themselves, skyrocketing premiums for the sick and elderly

    5. it puts unmanageable mandates on to the states, ask feinstein and reid

    6. it criminalizes the uninsured, just like driving is handled in CA

    7. it cuts medicare and medicaid a half a tril

    8. it scores 10 years of revenues and only 7 years of cost

    9. it generalizes funding for abortion, ask the catholic bishops

    10. its enforcements against the inclusion of illegals is weak

    11. it puts terrible taxes on small business, incubus of job creation, in the midst of our deperession

    12. it taxes the rich

    13. it taxes benefit packages, offending 170 letter signers in pelosi's place

    14. no tort reform, no addressing of "defensive medicine" costs

    15. no purchasing plans across state lines

    16. it leaves 25 million uncovered

    17. it taxes makers of medical devices, sure to increase the costs of hearing aids, wheelchairs, prosthetic hips...

    18. the difficulty of merging baucus and HELP appears impossible to overcome

    19. the nuclear option, senate reconciliation, is off the table after 10-15, thursday, day after tomorrow

    20. progressives in the house are pissed at baucus and snowe, they want a public option, they are revolted by the taxing of benefits (unionists)

    21. too much has been given to entice the flirtatious senator from maine

    22. bluedogs are irate over the cramming of PO into 3200, and abortion

    23. house/senate reconciliation is gonna be a bitch

    24. insurance companies will run massive ad campaigns ala harry and louise, which killed hillary-care last time

    25. it attemps salary controls on insurance industry employees, possibly extra-constitutionally

    26. there are constitutional questions as well concerning the mandates on individuals

    27. but i'm not interested in supreme court issues, i'm talking the politics, on both floors

    28. since employers are practically encouraged to drop their plans, the president's promise that you can keep what you like rings hollow

    29. leadership is lost---across the board tax increases are now in writing, in violation of the central tenet of the campaign; the taxing of benefits; the unkeepability of packages folks are satisfied with; etc

    30. the "day after decision dictum," which states: at all places and all times thru history, when nations are faced with crisis the human reaction is teeth gnashing and hair tearing, what should we do, what should we do---UNTIL leadership takes steps---then, instantly, within 24 hours, all indecision is replaced with certainty, even anger---it's called REACTION

    31. snowe came along in committee (LOL!) simply to maintain her relevance, ask msnbc's lawrence odonnell, former chief of staff of senate finance back in 1993

    32. finding massive savings in M&M in waste, fraud and abuse---why wait, if it's so doable to trim it out, then trim it out NOW, why does the party require a bill?

    33. cbo's scoring of baucus depends on downward re-schedulings of medicare outlays, a promise that's been mandated every year for a decade and always put off, or so says elmendorf

    34. pelosi has been working on and making massive changes to 3200 in a closet, secretly, reid will now do the same to merge baucus and HELP, the body of the party and the entire public is being frozen out

    35. thirty dem senators refused to sign a letter to reid demanding the PO, yet leadership is insistent on forcing it in

    that's a lot of trouble spelled out

    most dp LIBS don't support most of the stuff above

    how do YOU feel about half trillion dollar cuts to M&M?

    how do you think mr conrad's and ms lincoln's constituents feel?

    screwing with seniors is suicide in american politics

    baucus is the lowest threshold

    congrats on not being officially killed, quite, yet

    encoding into law even one third of the 35 points above spells the doom of the democratic party

    have at it
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    Re: GOP's Snowe will vote for Democratic health bill

    I'm AMAZINGLY surprised.

    Olympia Snowe, vote for ****ty legislation that is as far from republican and conservative in principle as possible?

    I'd NEVER imagine.

    She makes John McCain look like Barry Goldwater.

    Sadly its the state of affairs in the north east that its generally extreme liberal democrats vs liberal republicans. Kind of like choosing between a shot in the groin and a shot in the foot. I don't want my foot having a bullet hole in it but by god I'm not choosing the other place.

    The plan for this has been obvious from the start. Get it to committee, throw in the stuff that people don't want in one side of the house, and get it shoved through after that point so they can say they didn't really "Vote" for it at first. Only good thing is it takes so long to go into effect maybe it can be repealed before people are actually suckling off the governments teet

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    Re: GOP's Snowe will vote for Democratic health bill

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post


    31. snowe came along in committee (LOL!) simply to maintain her relevance, ask msnbc's lawrence odonnell, former chief of staff of senate finance back in 1993

    You know what Prof **** you buddy, first off you have no idea what your talking about when it come's to Sen. Snowe as I ask you in my last post not to go their I'm only going to ask you one more time after that then the kit glove's come off do you understand.

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    Re: GOP's Snowe will vote for Democratic health bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I'm AMAZINGLY surprised.

    Olympia Snowe, vote for ****ty legislation that is as far from republican and conservative in principle as possible?

    I'd NEVER imagine.

    She makes John McCain look like Barry Goldwater.

    Sadly its the state of affairs in the north east that its generally extreme liberal democrats vs liberal republicans. Kind of like choosing between a shot in the groin and a shot in the foot. I don't want my foot having a bullet hole in it but by god I'm not choosing the other place.

    Hey Zpy **** you, you have no idea what the hell your talking about when it comes to Sen. Snowe I suggest you and the rest of you so-called expert to stop now before this esculates to something some of you really don't want. Also since your a Mod I suggest you go and read the pm I sent to the Mods on this subject and underssand that I will not back down you will have ot ban me right now understand me.

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    Re: GOP's Snowe will vote for Democratic health bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    Clearly you don't know much about Maine Politics so I suggest you keep your trap shut on this one.
    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    Yea and the thing is no one outside of us Mainers really know how Olympia votes and how she reacts.
    You are so out of line Scorpion. I'm not even going to bother to quote the rest of your rant. These people have every right to comment on the RINO Snowe. I don't care if you're the guy who makes her hair greasy (though I severely doubt you are), you have no business talking to anyone like this. I am a Mainer, and I agree with them.
    Quote Originally Posted by soccerboy22 View Post
    You guys are weird.

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