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Sharpton, Jackson Attack Limbaugh's Rams Bid

I can't view youtube at work.

Does he say Donovan is very overrated, or does he say he's not very good?

Cause there was a time people were making him out to be a top 3 QB in the league and I'd definitely agree with the overrated label then
 
Zyphlin said:
I can't view youtube at work.

Does he say Donovan is very overrated, or does he say he's not very good?

Cause there was a time people were making him out to be a top 3 QB in the league and I'd definitely agree with the overrated label then
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[ame="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1627887"]Limbaugh's comments touch off controversy - NFL - ESPN[/ame]


Sorry to say this, I don't think he's been that good from the get-go," Limbaugh said. "I think what we've had here is a little social concern in the NFL. The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well. There is a little hope invested in McNabb, and he got a lot of credit for the performance of this team that he didn't deserve. The defense carried this team."
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
He was commenting on what he percieved as racism of the NFL, he made no comment that his blackness made him no good.



Amazing. :doh
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Yes, that's right. And he was a dumbass to say it. McNabb got accolades because of his own merit, not because of his colour. Overrated??? No freakin way. Look at what he had accomplished before those comments. :doh
 
Zyphlin said:
I can't view youtube at work.

Does he say Donovan is very overrated, or does he say he's not very good?

Cause there was a time people were making him out to be a top 3 QB in the league and I'd definitely agree with the overrated label then
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He starts off by saying, "I don't think he's been that good from the get-go."

What a moron.
 
So what did he say that was racist? :shrug: Granted what he said was probably a little controversial for a sports show, but those bloated, old men in their suits are always blowharding about something.
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
What was that he said about quarterback?


And many of the games do look like crips vs bloods. :shrug:
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Not arguing those points, but I can see where some players would be upset. However, and I repeat, there is no reason that Rush should not own a team. This whole thing is making much ado over nothing.
 
Redress said:
Not arguing those points, but I can see where some players would be upset. However, and I repeat, there is no reason that Rush should not own a team. This whole thing is making much ado over nothing.
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I think those players need to grow a pair or at least learn themselves on actually what was said. :shrug:


Other than that, we agree.
 
Twana Brawley, Sharpton is lower than Limbutt. Sharpton is pure scum.
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
Rush was right about Donovan McNabb. - By Allen Barra - Slate Magazine





Also, I will look for the article, but later on, McNabb, actually inadvertantly agrees with Rush. :lol:
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I don't need to read anyone's opinion. I've watched pretty much every freakin' game he's played. :doh

You don't make Pro Bowls for being ****ty. A consensus voted him in... and I can assure it was not cuz he's black.

The biggest problem with McNabb is that he's injury prone. If there's one critique of him, that has got to be it.
 
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Redress said:
Not arguing those points, but I can see where some players would be upset. However, and I repeat, there is no reason that Rush should not own a team. This whole thing is making much ado over nothing.
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I agree with that. Being a moronic asshole should not stop you from buying a football team.
 
Redress said:
I make no claims regarding what he said, only reporting what I heard from a few players this weekend. Far as I am concerned, it's a business, and unless Rush would be bad for business, if he has the best bid, he should get the team.
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The statements apply to the players as well though. Or more importantly to the sports writers getting this crap generally from liberal blog sites, all without context. So a site specifically designed to attack Rush posts some comments, completely without context. This causes sports writers to grab onto them and write about them, completely without knowing the context and using only their stereotypical views of Limbaugh to guide how they describe his statements. Then players, trusting sports writers to actually...I don't know...do their damn job and get things stated factually and their own stereotypes of Limbaugh repeat it as well. And thus the cycle continues, all without any of them daring to actually think to go look at context when yo'ure taking a single sentence uttered in an hour and a half on some random day.
 
When people criticize others over stupid crap like this, it only helps to legitimize those people and make the side that is criticizing look like the nutballs. So in this particular situation Rush comes out looking like the good guy. Thanks Al and Jesse, but we don't need your help. :2wave:
 
I dunno, I thought the "Barack the Magic Negro" song was pretty tasteless, especially how the voice that was supposed to be "Jesse Jackson" sounded so stereotypically "cotton-picking farmhand" black, for lack of a better way to put it.
 
the makeout hobo said:
I dunno, I thought the "Barack the Magic Negro" song was pretty tasteless, especially how the voice that was supposed to be "Jesse Jackson" sounded so stereotypically "cotton-picking farmhand" black, for lack of a better way to put it.
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Uhm....


Barack the Magic Negro lives in D.C.
The L.A. Times, they called him that
'Cause he's not authentic like me.
Yeah, the guy from the L.A. paper
Said he makes guilty whites feel good
They'll vote for him, and not for me
'Cause he's not from the hood.
See, real black men, like Snoop Dog,
Or me, or Farrakhan
Have talked the talk, and walked the walk.
Not come in late and won!

[refrain]

Oh, Barack the Magic Negro, lives in D.C.
The L.A. Times, they called him that
'Cause he's black, but not authentically.
Oh, Barack the Magic Negro, lives in D.C.
The L.A. Times, they called him that
'Cause he's black, but not authentically.
Some say Barack's "articulate"
And bright and new and "clean."
The media sure loves this guy,
A white interloper's dream!
But, when you vote for president,
Watch out, and don't be fooled!
Don't vote the Magic Negro in -
'Cause — 'cause I won't have nothing after all these years of sacrifice




The whole song was a parody on sharpton and jackson saying obama wasn't black enough, and the magic negro was from a lib on the la times.


Context makes you look more in the loop. ;)
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
Uhm....


Barack the Magic Negro lives in D.C.
The L.A. Times, they called him that
'Cause he's not authentic like me.
Yeah, the guy from the L.A. paper
Said he makes guilty whites feel good
They'll vote for him, and not for me
'Cause he's not from the hood.
See, real black men, like Snoop Dog,
Or me, or Farrakhan
Have talked the talk, and walked the walk.
Not come in late and won!

[refrain]

Oh, Barack the Magic Negro, lives in D.C.
The L.A. Times, they called him that
'Cause he's black, but not authentically.
Oh, Barack the Magic Negro, lives in D.C.
The L.A. Times, they called him that
'Cause he's black, but not authentically.
Some say Barack's "articulate"
And bright and new and "clean."
The media sure loves this guy,
A white interloper's dream!
But, when you vote for president,
Watch out, and don't be fooled!
Don't vote the Magic Negro in -
'Cause — 'cause I won't have nothing after all these years of sacrifice




The whole song was a parody on sharpton and jackson saying obama wasn't black enough, and the magic negro was from a lib on the la times.


Context makes you look more in the loop. ;)
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I know. I heard the song. When Rush Limbaugh played in on his show. Did you even read why I was criticizing it?
 
Middleground said:
He sure did say that he wasn't good! I know, I remember it well. He said (though I paraphrase) that he was highly overrated an that he only got publicity because of his colour. Limbaugh deserved to get fired from that job.

Here's the video:

YouTube - Rush Limbaugh 2003 Comments on Donovan McNabb
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He was highly overrated. That doesn't mean that one doesn't belong in the NFL or that they aren't decent. It means they are overrated, and at the time he was. Limbaugh was fired, whatever. But people still trying to drum up the ol' "Limbaugh is a racist" are just being stupid.
 
Baralis said:
Sharpton, Jackson Attack Limbaugh's Rams Bid - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News - FOXNews.com



Anyone else feel this is just another case of Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson making a stir just to get more publicity?
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I think publicity is part of, but I also think that it's mostly about revenge. They finally, after all these years, found a way they can get some real payback against Rush.

The funny part abhout all this, is that you got pro footbal palyers and the NFL and the player's union saying that they're going to turn their noses up at someone wanting to give them money...yeah right!!!

They can be as hoyty-toyty as they want, but there are college kids out there, that have talent, who will jump all over the chance to play for a team that Rush owns and they're not going to give two hoots about Rush's politics.
 
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Middleground said:
He starts off by saying, "I don't think he's been that good from the get-go."

What a moron.
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There's a difference between saying "he's not good" and saying, in reference to people making him out to be a great QB that's now struggling, that you didn't think he was "that good" from the start.

For example, by week 12 of last year people could be talking about how Clinton Portis seemed to be running out of gas and wasn't seeming like a pro bowl back like he did at the start of the year. I could've easily made a class to say that frankly he wasn't "that good" to begin with (in reference to how good people were making him out to be a top 5 back), but that it was mostly good line play at the beginning of the year that was doing it for him.

That's not me saying Clinton Portis is a BAD back, just that the down turn in the 2nd half of the year wasn't surprising to me because he wasn't as good as people were making him out to be in the first place.

Just for fun too...McNabb's standings in 2003.

17th in TD's
16th in QB rating
14th in Yards
19th in completion percentage

Middleground said:
I don't need to read anyone's opinion. I've watched pretty much every freakin' game he's played. :doh

You don't make Pro Bowls for being ****ty. A consensus voted him in... and I can assure it was not cuz he's black.

The biggest problem with McNabb is that he's injury prone. If there's one critique of him, that has got to be it.
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You're basing this off the Pro Bowl Really?

Let me show you some fun fun fun pro bowl statistics.

First, go look at the amount of times Mike Vick got voted to the Pro Bowl and how many QB's had better TD, Yards, completion percentage, and every other important QB stat. It was popularity, plain and simple.

Second, again the pro bowl is as much about popularity as it is actual talent. Lets examine two players. Both play MLB. Going back to 2000

One has 911 tackles, 20.5 sacks, 48 pass defenses, 21 ints, 2 defensive TDs, and 11 force fumbles. He's been on one super bowl winning team.

The other has 1102, 25 sacks, 37 pass defenses, 14 ints, 3 defensive TD's, and 10 force fumbles. He's been on one super bowl winning team.

So one has more ints, Forced fumbles and pass defenses. The other has more tackles, more sacks, and more defensive TD's. What's the difference?

One is a 10 time pro bowler...Ray Lewis
One has never been to the pro bowl....London Fletcher

Being a good player helps with the Pro Bowl, but being in the Pro Bowl doesn't necessarily mean you're one of the tip top players of that position

Three, in regards to probowl voting, go look at what happened last year with the 8-8 redskins prior to the coachs/players vote. 25 redskins were sitting among the top 5 vote getters at their avrious positions, and the 8-8 skins would've had 17 bro bowlers.

Yes, McNabb is a good QB. He's not a top 3 to 5 QB in the league, especially when you consider his injury prone nature.
 
Zyphlin said:
You're basing this off the Pro Bowl Really?

Let me show you some fun fun fun pro bowl statistics.
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Exactly! People who are out there running their mouths against Rush don't know what they are talking about.

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The headline is a bit misleading. Morris does call Limbaugh a bigot, and defines what he means by such (I think the definition applies to a great number of people, including some here rallying against Rush). But it was in contrast to people calling him racist, he's claiming Rush isn't racist. But in the end, it's actually a defense (much to the disappointment of the CNN jackass) of Rush.
 
the makeout hobo said:
What reason did I give for criticizing it?
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Sharpton, not Jesse Jackson, and supposed to be through a bull horn (parodying his constant protesting).

And honestly, I didn't think the impersonation of Sharpton was that much farther off than well...every impersonation I've heard of Sharpton, even from the bastion of right winger propoganda (just ask CNN) SNL.

Granted, I'm sure this may get me lambasted as racist (Though if I said the same thing with "redneck" or "southern" it wouldn't) Sharpton does have a very stereotypical boistrous black preacher accent to his speech. If they took say, Obama, and instead made him sound like that when he has a completely different pitch, tenor, and inflection than Sharpton then I may be with you on that. But Sharpton sounds like that stereotype like Jeff Foxworthy's voice sounds like the redneck stereotype.
 
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