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    Re: Sharpton, Jackson Attack Limbaugh's Rams Bid

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    Vick paid his debt. He can play. Vick took responsibility for his mistake. Ultimately, it's up to the league if they want him to play or not. Vick puts butts in seats.

    Limbaugh doesn't have that upside. Ultimately, that's what the league does. They do a cost/benefit analysis. I believe the current owners vote on new owners, but I might be mistaken. Maybe that's baseball.
    Baseball, I don't think the other owners have say. The commissioner does though.

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    Re: Sharpton, Jackson Attack Limbaugh's Rams Bid

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    Vick paid his debt. He can play. Vick took responsibility for his mistake. Ultimately, it's up to the league if they want him to play or not. Vick puts butts in seats.
    I'm not saying he can't play. I'm saying you can't make an argument that the "image" thing isn't allowed to disqualify Vicks "right" to play football if a team wants him, but say it is allowed to disqualify Rush if the owners vote him in. You can't say it doesn't matter that its a business, Vick has a RIGHT to play in the NFL but then say that its a business, and thus its perfectly fine for the Commissioner to simply bar him from owning a team.

    This isn't even going into the fact that Vick is a convicted Felon whose acts happened while employed by the league who repeatedly violated the leagues rules in ways that permanent banishment would be completely justifiable (lying to the commissioner) where as Limbaugh's stigma's all came outside of him being in the league and violates no league rules.

    Limbaugh doesn't have that upside. Ultimately, that's what the league does. They do a cost/benefit analysis. I believe the current owners vote on new owners, but I might be mistaken. Maybe that's baseball. If the league said "No." I would certainly understand it would be due to image. He is too polarizing a figure. If they said "Yes." then it's because owners are behind the scenes and don't usually don't figure into the image of the league.
    You're correct, the owners vote on it and have to approve him. After that, the NFL itself can say "no dice". If the owners want to vote him down, so be it. If the Commish wants to vote him down even, so be it, though I like that less.

    However if he does its utter and completely hypocritical BS on the part of Goodell, and that doesn't change the fact that all the idiots in the media now that previously were talking about Vicks "Right" to play and how business/image doesn't matter in regards to the Commissioner over ruling a team wanting him who are currently calling for the commissioner to simply throw him out due to business/image.

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    Re: Sharpton, Jackson Attack Limbaugh's Rams Bid

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    I'm not saying he can't play. I'm saying you can't make an argument that the "image" thing isn't allowed to disqualify Vicks "right" to play football if a team wants him, but say it is allowed to disqualify Rush if the owners vote him in. You can't say it doesn't matter that its a business, Vick has a RIGHT to play in the NFL but then say that its a business, and thus its perfectly fine for the Commissioner to simply bar him from owning a team.

    This isn't even going into the fact that Vick is a convicted Felon whose acts happened while employed by the league who repeatedly violated the leagues rules in ways that permanent banishment would be completely justifiable (lying to the commissioner) where as Limbaugh's stigma's all came outside of him being in the league and violates no league rules.



    You're correct, the owners vote on it and have to approve him. After that, the NFL itself can say "no dice". If the owners want to vote him down, so be it. If the Commish wants to vote him down even, so be it, though I like that less.

    However if he does its utter and completely hypocritical BS on the part of Goodell, and that doesn't change the fact that all the idiots in the media now that previously were talking about Vicks "Right" to play and how business/image doesn't matter in regards to the Commissioner over ruling a team wanting him who are currently calling for the commissioner to simply throw him out due to business/image.
    I hear what you are saying. Like I said though, the delineating factor is the bottom line. That doesn't mean that there are other factors to be taken into account. There is no upside to Limbaugh. Sure, he hasn't broken any conduct rules with the NFL. But maybe they are afraid of what he may say in the future. He didn't last long on ESPN. I don't see Vick being a repeat offender. Vick doesn't have a right to play though. Nobody has a right to any job.

    I'd like to see the condition that he has to fight Buddy Ryan in order for consideration.
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    Re: Sharpton, Jackson Attack Limbaugh's Rams Bid

    The Rams suck....Rush and the rams deserve each other.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: Sharpton, Jackson Attack Limbaugh's Rams Bid

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    The Rams suck....Rush and the rams deserve each other.
    When is L.A. getting a football team?
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    Re: Sharpton, Jackson Attack Limbaugh's Rams Bid

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    When is L.A. getting a football team?
    No one here cares.

    We have real football here...its played on Saturdays.

    The corporate Sunday BS has very little resemblence to the game.

    The NFL thought that they could keep a team away and then get cities here to flock to offer to build stadiums for them on the taxpayer dime. Angelenos are smarter than that and gave the NFL a big thumbs down.
    Now the NFL is trying desperately to get a team here...and are finding that people here have no interest in their merchandise.

    The day the Rams and Raiders left was great for LA....there are so many better things here to do with your time.
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    Re: Sharpton, Jackson Attack Limbaugh's Rams Bid

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    No one here cares.

    We have real football here...its played on Saturdays.

    The corporate Sunday BS has very little resemblence to the game.

    The NFL thought that they could keep a team away and then get cities here to flock to offer to build stadiums for them on the taxpayer dime. Angelenos are smarter than that and gave the NFL a big thumbs down.
    Now the NFL is trying desperately to get a team here...and are finding that people here have no interest in their merchandise.

    The day the Rams and Raiders left was great for LA....there are so many better things here to do with your time.
    So you opt for the corporate Staurday BS?
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    Re: Sharpton, Jackson Attack Limbaugh's Rams Bid

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    So you opt for the corporate Staurday BS?
    College Football isn't even close to the same corporate BS as the NFL....
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    Re: Sharpton, Jackson Attack Limbaugh's Rams Bid

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    College Football isn't even close to the same corporate BS as the NFL....
    Yeah, , I never knew there were so many black Mormons and Irishmen.

    It's all about the money there too.
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    Re: Sharpton, Jackson Attack Limbaugh's Rams Bid

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    Sharpton, Jackson Attack Limbaugh's Rams Bid - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News - FOXNews.com



    Anyone else feel this is just another case of Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson making a stir just to get more publicity?
    It may be easier to search for those that do not feel they are scrambling for attention. There is likely a smaller sampling of those cases.
    Thank you

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