Re: White House [continues to] Escalates War on Fox News
Hahaha so now you're saying the NY Times and NBC declared war on the Bush administration. Do you have any proof of this? Links please? Do we have an official declaration from the news agencies saying they are at war with the Bush Administration? I thought not.
Being trite appears to be one of your strong suits.
You seem to forget all the news agencies were gung ho for the Iraq war and helped cheerlead us into the war.
Yes they were, the NY Times even had their own little cheer leader; then they decided the war might provide too much support for the “evil” Bush and they fired the Bush administration cheer leader they had on staff and began their campaign of ignorance against the Iraq war and the Bush administration.
I would guess that when Americans have had enough of the current administrations totalitarian tactics, lies, distortions and criminally negligent spending, they will turn on Obama as well.
But as for your claim that they declared war on the bush administration are you not in same way also admitting Fox news declared war on the Obama administration much as you'd be admitting they did during the Clinton administration. That's how Fox got started was it not?
I see that you are missing the point of the thread, it isn’t about a media outlet declaring war on an administration, it is about the administration declaring war on a free speech media outlet.
I am hardly surprised that you cannot distinguish the difference however based on your hyperbolic arguments.
There hasn't been an honest and open debate on health care. When you have news agencies claiming there are death panels, veteran death books and people at town hall meetings shutting down debate there won't be an honest discussion.
This is an opinion expressed in a vacuum of the facts or reality. Your efforts to select just those issues that fit your narrow myopic views notwithstanding, ANY open debate regardless of the substance is a GOOD thing in a Republic and with that debate and dialogue one can get the facts and make a GOOD decision with GOOD policy.
Regarding the “death panel” topic, what I find most amusing is the notion that they wont make those decisions. Here is a Liberal advisor to the President and Democrats telling the truth; something this administration doesn’t like:
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Robert in his own words states: “we’re going to let you die” and the audience claps.
Most of the polls out there support health care reform. Now let me ask you TD how often do you hear on the news stations about Insurance companies dropping people because of preexisting conditions?
If you polled me, I would state we need healthcare reform also; however, I have to ask the question, why is it that Liberal Democrats think that the ONLY option for reform requires a massive expansion of the Federal Bureaucracy and corresponding massive addition to the deficits and National Debt?
Why is it that Liberals and Liberal Democrats feel the need to demagogue insurance companies who employ many thousands of Americans and provide a very necessary service?
Insurance companies can only DROP people with pre-existing conditions if the LIED on their applications when they obtained the insurance. Insurance companies can CHOOSE to not cover individuals with pre-existing conditions for the simple reason that they are not charities but for profit organizations.
How much money do you think it will cost the Government to provide care for Americans with “pre-existing” conditions and how do you think they are going to pay for it?
You know that insurance companies consider acne to be a preexisting condition? Women have the greatest obstacles as getting pregnant is considered optional to insurance companies. Women who have C-sections, that's considered a preexisting condition. How often are we hearing about the scams these insurance companies run?
The notion that these are scams is absurd in the extreme. These are REAL issues and conditions. I just want to know how you think that trying to destroy an industry with demagoguery is moving the debate forward in an honest or positive way.
What about the fact that insurance companies are perfectly fine with socialized property insurance? The government covers insurance companies when it comes to disaster insurance I guess the free market doesn't work in that scenario for them.
If you want to have a debate about Insurance companies, you should start a new thread, it has nothing to do with this topic does it?