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White House Escalates War of Words With Fox News

Re: White House [continues to] Escalates War on Fox News

CLUE: this thread isn’t about TD or Gibberrish. It is about the Librul/Democrat efforts to attack, demagogue and single out a news organization for the simple fact that they don’t like the truth getting out. You are free to show how this is not the case, but to be honest, I don’t think you have the ability to be honest.

I have a serious question for you TD and I'm not attempting to be insulting any way, so I would highly appreciate a serious answer. If, as you say, the thread isn't about you or other people then why do you resort to personal attacks in your replies to people you don't agree with? In many of them you don't argue the point, but instead attack the poster personally by trying to insult their intelligence for daring to have another point of view. So, if you are so interested in staying on topic, why do you fail again and again to do this? For example, in this specific quote above you attack the person because you don't think they have the ability to be honest. That is a personal attack, is it not?
 
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Because not everything is partisan. I fail to see how their idiocy is a direct line to the Liberal political philosophy. Can you give other examples of Liberal Presidential Administrations going after specific news networks because they don't like criticism?

Yes; the Clinton Administration did the same thing as the Obama Administration with Fox.

In THIS issue and war on Fox, it most certainly is a Partisan issue. But if you have evidence to the contrary that is it NOT a Partisan Librul attack, I am sure all of us are ready to see it.

Next?

I think that you are using this incident as yet another excuse to paint Liberals with a broad brush. Yes, we get that you don't like Liberals.

:rofl You are free to illustrate how the attacks on Fox News are other than Partisan Liberals; I'll be waiting to see the evidence.

Good lord, you have GOT to be kidding! :rofl
 
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It's clearly partisan from both sides. FoxNews is partisan in their "fact finding" as shown by the previous links and videos. White House is partisan in their attacks on FoxNews criticism. I've seen CNN and NBC attack the White House on occasion and no negative responsive is given by the White House. Why are they singling out FoxNews?

Well it makes sense. Fox News consistently has higher ratings which means they have a larger audience. If the White House and our Thug in Chief have got their panties in a wad over fact checking White House representatives and those fact checkers happen to have the largest cable news audience, then yeah I guess if I was a goon who was trained in dirty Chicago politics where threats and punishments are the way it works, I would probably go after Fox, too.
 
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Yes; the Clinton Administration did the same thing as the Obama Administration with Fox.

In THIS issue and war on Fox, it most certainly is a Partisan issue. But if you have evidence to the contrary that is it NOT a Partisan Librul attack, I am sure all of us are ready to see it.

Next?

I don't remember the Clinton Administration attacking Fox like the Obama Administration is. Though, I could be wrong. Even so, those are two examples. How is that enough to paint all Liberals with?

:rofl You are free to illustrate how the attacks on Fox News are other than Partisan Liberals; I'll be waiting to see the evidence.

Good lord, you have GOT to be kidding! :rofl

No, that's not what you said. You acted as if this behavior was typical of Liberals as if they can't handle the truth.
 
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Oh, I agree. That was pretty bad.

I think that FOXNews' alternate viewpoint is absolutely necessary. Opposition and dissent are healthy and necessary. Are they biased? Of course, they are. So are all the other networks. The message I'm getting from this whole utterly ridiculous war on a TV network is that this White House just does not know how to handle opposing views. From where I'm sitting, they're looking worse by the day in how they're choosing to deal with this.

I cannot agree with you more and I watch CNN, MSNBC and other news sources as well as read the LA Times to be MORE informed. I may disagree with many of their Op Eds and OPINIONS, along with MSNBC's long lineup of Liberal talk shows, but you won’t see me campaigning to shut them down.

Instead, you will see me illustrating with evidence their obvious bias and attempts to water down bad news for their "Messiah."
 
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They are putting an editorial, propaganda outlet in it's place.

The WH is open to dealing with real journalists.

I do feel bad for the handful of honest news people who do work at Fox. But they've had years to call out the obvious bias coming from their network.

O'Reilly and Shep show the occasional sparks of integrity, but sadly go back to silence or singing the company song.

The only kool-aid is being served at Tea Parties, goobie.

BTW--that 'drinking the kool-aide' come back died six months ago.

Orielly, Hannity are not news shows, just like Olberman and Maddow are not news shows. You're bad points are made worse as you try to throw in Fox commentators into hard news when they're not. Fox News have news programs and they provide news. To agree with the WH that Fox News = Hannity or shows like it and that they're not "journalists" is deceiving at best. In fact all cable news and most network news have commentator programming - 60 minutes for example, while playing off like it's hard investigative news is in fact and has been shown to be very biased in the past. If Fox is biased and not credible, ALL "cable news" channels are biased and non-credible. Singling one out is dishonest and anyone/everyone can see through this partisan tripe.
 
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Gibberrish; could you do me a favor and go back to my comments where I specifically stated "Gibberish?" None of my previous comments before your whiney diatribe against me were directed at any particular member of the forum.

Get back to me when you get your reality check.
Sure thing.

Yes folks, you certainly can't make this type of delusion up from Gibberish.

CLUE: this thread isn’t about TD or Gibberrish. It is about the Librul/Democrat efforts to attack, demagogue and single out a news organization for the simple fact that they don’t like the truth getting out. You are free to show how this is not the case, but to be honest, I don’t think you have the ability to be honest.

Carry on; your inability to comprehend your own uninformed selective whiney blather is truly stunning.

No it's not and it's not about "liberals" and made up delusion either. It's about the White House continuing with it's partisan attack on a news organization for having a political agenda and selective "fact finding".
 
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I have a serious question for you TD and I'm not attempting to be insulting any way, so I would highly appreciate a serious answer. If, as you say, the thread isn't about you or other people then why do you resort to personal attacks in your replies to people you don't agree with?

I would like you to show where I engaged in any personal attacks before Gibberish’s personal attack on me. Get back to me when you find it.

Where is your selective outrage at this unwarranted personal attack on me?

http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...-escalates-war-fox-news-6.html#post1058315236

In many of them you don't argue the point, but instead attack the poster personally by trying to insult their intelligence for daring to have another point of view.

I would like to illustrate the irony of your comments by directing you to your first response to my comments: http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...-escalates-war-fox-news-6.html#post1058315236

Now I want you to show where prior to my response to Gibberish’s personal attack on me I attacked anyone.....I'll be waiting.

So, if you are so interested in staying on topic, why do you fail again and again to do this?

Once again, your credibility is suffering when you selectively suggest that prior to the personal attack on me, I was engaging in personal attacks on ANYONE.

In many of them you don't argue the point, but instead attack the poster personally by trying to insult their intelligence for daring to have another point of view.

So when someone is acting like a jackass and engaging in whiney hyperbolic stupidity they should not be called on it? What a fascinating view you have; and yet, you want to call me out on it?

So, if you are so interested in staying on topic, why do you fail again and again to do this?

I find this statement fascinating in that until the typical cabal of whiney Libruls started engaging in personal attacks on me, the thread wasn’t being derailed. I find your selective outrage beyond just amusing, but it suggest the need for therapy?

For example, in this specific quote above you attack the person because you don't think they have the ability to be honest. That is a personal attack, is it not?

You will have to be specific as there are a LOT of quotes above, the first of which you selectively ignored attack me personally. Here, let me refer you to it again:

http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...-escalates-war-fox-news-6.html#post1058315236


Now you are free to show where I attacked Gibberish first, but that would be a futile effort. So now let me ask you a serious question, and I'm not attempting to be insulting any way, so I would highly appreciate a serious answer; why is it that your outrage at personal insults on this forum appears to only be directed at those you politically disagree with?

By the way, when the people who are thanking you are members like Jackalope, the answer might be TOO obvious for you to comprehend. :rofl
 
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Well it makes sense. Fox News consistently has higher ratings which means they have a larger audience. If the White House and our Thug in Chief have got their panties in a wad over fact checking White House representatives and those fact checkers happen to have the largest cable news audience, then yeah I guess if I was a goon who was trained in dirty Chicago politics where threats and punishments are the way it works, I would probably go after Fox, too.

Threats and punishments in "dirty Chicago politics" consists denying interviews? I guess things have really lightened up in the past decade or so.

As I have consistently said, the White House has put it's self in a no win situation. They should stick to the norm of taking an interview, rebutting the "facts" presented, and move on to the next interview. There is nothing to gain from singling out specific news agencies and fighting a losing media battle with a company devoted to media.
 
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I don't really think it's a partisan thing. I think that this particular Administration just can't seem to handle criticism. The stupid thing is that by going after Fox they look petty and idiotic as if dissent or criticism are illegal somehow.

You know all this hub bub over an administration going off on fox news reminds me a bit about the lack of hub bub when the previous administration went after NBC and the NY Times
 
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I don't remember the Clinton Administration attacking Fox like the Obama Administration is. Though, I could be wrong. Even so, those are two examples. How is that enough to paint all Liberals with?

Yes, you would be wrong if you think that the Clinton Administration didn't engage in similar demagoguery.

I find your continued feigned ignorance stunning; please tell me what is NOT partisan about the attacks on Fox News with something more credible than your OPINION. :doh

No, that's not what you said. You acted as if this behavior was typical of Liberals as if they can't handle the truth.

Please provide the specific quote that sparks your selective outrage. :roll:
 
Maybe this has been brought up...



White House Escalates War on Fox News - Political News - FOXNews.com

So... The Obama is throwing this little fit because FNC had the audacity to fact check?

Someone correct me if I am wrong -- isn't that EXACTLY what a news organization is supposed to do?

Selective fact checking is something all news agencies do. This Administration needs to stop whining anytime they are not spun into a positive light.

Here is some more on the topic of "selective fact checking" by Fox News.

Wallace's "fact check" ignores his prior "death book" falsehoods, advances new one | Media Matters for America

How Conservatives Got The Facts Wrong On Their Latest Obsession: The "Death Book" For Veterans

White House vs. Fox News, Part 34 - Political Punch

Oh, and here is the pamphlet, "Your life your Choices". http://www.rihlp.org/pubs/Your_life_your_choices.pdf. Read through it and make up your own minds on it.
 
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Quote:Originally Posted by Truth Detector
Gibberrish; could you do me a favor and go back to my comments where I specifically stated "Gibberish?" None of my previous comments before your whiney diatribe against me were directed at any particular member of the forum.

Get back to me when you get your reality check.

Sure thing.

Quote:Originally Posted by Truth Detector
Yes folks, you certainly can't make this type of delusion up from Gibberish.


Wasn’t this in response to your personal attack here?:

http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...-escalates-war-fox-news-5.html#post1058315217

In TD's world the events don't have to actually occur for him to make derogatory comment about those events and liberals.

Yes folks, he can make this type of delusion up.

You exhibit a profound level of irony and delusion here dude.

No it's not and it's not about "liberals" and made up delusion either. It's about the White House continuing with it's partisan attack on a news organization for having a political agenda and selective "fact finding".

Really??? So Liberal organizations and Liberals in general, and particularly on this forum, do not engage in the same demagoguery this administration has against Fox News?

One truly must chug a lot of kool-aid to make such obviously uniformed comments.

Do me a favor, if this is NOT a partisan issue, please provide evidence where Republicans share the same views of this administration and Libruls against Fox News.

In order to fabricate such nonsensical views, one must also surmise that other news organizations do not have a political agenda and selective fact finding of their own; the recent CNN fact check of SNL is the most recent example.

Face it Gibb, you’re a liberal selective hypocrite that engages into personal attacks on me for nothing better than you just don’t like your own lies, distortions and uninformed opinions slapped back into your face.
 
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I would like you to show where I engaged in any personal attacks before Gibberish’s personal attack on me. Get back to me when you find it.

Where is your selective outrage at this unwarranted personal attack on me?

http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...-escalates-war-fox-news-6.html#post1058315236

He was referring to your argument. Would you care to provide proof that he was attacking you personally there? Regardless, how exactly does that justify your personal attacks? And we aren't even just talking about Gibberish here. Most of your replies to people who don't agree with you have similar personal attacks. Do you take their disagreeing with you as a personal affront to you and then act accordingly? Is that how you justify it?

I would like to illustrate the irony of your comments by directing you to your first response to my comments: http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...-escalates-war-fox-news-6.html#post1058315236

Um..that's not my response, it's the same link from above. :confused:

Now I want you to show where prior to my response to Gibberish’s personal attack on me I attacked anyone.....I'll be waiting.

Once again, calling your argument dishonest isn't a personal attack. Nice try, though.

Once again, your credibility is suffering when you selectively suggest that prior to the personal attack on me, I was engaging in personal attacks on ANYONE.

You act as if this is the first time, TD. You do it time and time again, which is why a lot of people around here have a problem with you.

So when someone is acting like a jackass and engaging in whiney hyperbolic stupidity they should not be called on it? What a fascinating view you have; and yet, you want to call me out on it?

Ah, but see...you appear to characterize damn near any post that disagrees with your point of view as "whiney hyperbolic stupidity." I call you out on it because it gets old. You are good at arguing and you would be a really good debater on these boards if you could focus your attacks on their arguments rather than them personally. Though, you just can't seem to help yourself and always include a personal attack against them.

I find this statement fascinating in that until the typical cabal of whiney Libruls started engaging in personal attacks on me, the thread wasn’t being derailed. I find your selective outrage beyond just amusing, but it suggest the need for therapy?

Don't worry, TD. I wouldn't expect you to see what you do. Few people have that ability.

You will have to be specific as there are a LOT of quotes above, the first of which you selectively ignored attack me personally. Here, let me refer you to it again:

http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...-escalates-war-fox-news-6.html#post1058315236

Once again, calling your argument dishonest isn't a personal attack.

Now you are free to show where I attacked Gibberish first, but that would be a futile effort. So now let me ask you a serious question, and I'm not attempting to be insulting any way, so I would highly appreciate a serious answer; why is it that your outrage at personal insults on this forum appears to only be directed at those you politically disagree with?

Perhaps that's how it is from your perspective, but I would be criticizing someone on the left just as much. Regardless, I don't fully disagree with you politically. I don't agree with your generalizations against Liberals, but I also don't agree with Liberals who make generalizations about Conservatives.

By the way, when the people who are thanking you are members like Jackalope, the answer might be TOO obvious for you to comprehend. :rofl

Okay, see..this is exactly what I was talking about. Where did I attack you personally first that warranted this comment? I asked you why you do this in a civil manner with no insults and got the same behavior you always exhibit. Frankly, I don't even know why I bother.
 
Maybe this has been brought up...



White House Escalates War on Fox News - Political News - FOXNews.com

So... The Obama is throwing this little fit because FNC had the audacity to fact check?

Someone correct me if I am wrong -- isn't that EXACTLY what a news organization is supposed to do?


FNC did not 'fact check'. They sliced and diced vid to make it appear Duckworth said something she did not. FNC, ehrm ..... LIED.




Fox News 'fact checks' Asst Secy Duckworth:


YouTube - Fox edits Duckworth comment then calls her a liar.


:roll:


embed vid from quote: [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5fCAJ7iU7o"]YouTube - Fox edits Duckworth comment then calls her a liar.[/ame]
 
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You know all this hub bub over an administration going off on fox news reminds me a bit about the lack of hub bub when the previous administration went after NBC and the NY Times

Shhh!! You aren't supposed to point that out!

The fact is that both sides are huge hypocrites and use whatever ammo they can to attack the other side, even if it makes them look hypocritical for doing the same exact thing. That's why I think it's silly to just paint one side with such a broad brush like TD is doing.
 
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Threats and punishments in "dirty Chicago politics" consists denying interviews? I guess things have really lightened up in the past decade or so.

Well I am sure they would probably love to bash some kneecaps instead but that wouldn't go over too well if it got national attention. :roll:

And yeah, denying interviews and correspondence access is punishment to a news network.

As I have consistently said, the White House has put it's self in a no win situation. They should stick to the norm of taking an interview, rebutting the "facts" presented, and move on to the next interview. There is nothing to gain from singling out specific news agencies and fighting a losing media battle with a company devoted to media.

Yeah, that's what any well run white house would do...
 
Re: White House [continues to] Escalates War on Fox News

You know all this hub bub over an administration going off on fox news reminds me a bit about the lack of hub bub when the previous administration went after NBC and the NY Times

:rofl So was this after NBC and the New York Times declared war on the Bush administration and its efforts in Iraq based on a BI-PARTISAN decision to go in?

I am fascinated by the lack of coherent arguments from the Bush and Conservative haters when their efforts to attack a news organization for purely hyper partisan political purposes are exposed for being just that.

Again, there is only ONE reason to engage in such partisan hyperbole; and that is because this administration and their Librul allies are attempting to KEEP the truth and the facts from the American people.

The TRUTH is that any open and HONEST debate about healthcare will end up losing them support of their partisan agenda to force Universal Healthcare down our throats in an effort to create a permanent dependent constituency.

There are no FACTS to support this administrations hyperbolic rhetoric, lies and distortions and attempts to demagogue their political opponents.
 
FNC did not 'fact check'. They sliced and diced vid to make it appear Duckworth said something she did not. FNC, ehrm ..... LIED.

Disgusting & dangerous for a political operative...Fox News.....to hide behind the disguise of a real news network. I think this needs to be pursued in federal court.
 
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:rofl So was this after NBC and the New York Times declared war on the Bush administration and its efforts in Iraq based on a BI-PARTISAN decision to go in?

I fail to see how that's so different from what Fox News is doing. Have you seen some of the stuff that Glenn Beck & Sean Hannity have been saying about the Obama Administration? I realize that they are political commentary shows, but the Obama Administration is attacking Fox News in general, not only the news shows. In fact, their cross-hairs are probably more on those two (and perhaps O'Reilly) than anyone else at Fox News.
 
Hey Doc, Looks like a Jerry Cheevers mask... missing some stitches though.

I wonder how many people on the left are as myopic as Obama... unable to stomach FOXNEWS.

Lord knows we cannot escape the Lib media for now... and I do listen to them (with a barf bag), but how many on the left have the intellectual curiosity to listen to FOX, Rush, Hannity, Levin or anyone right leaning?

From what I've read over the past few years here and elsewhere... that tolerance and intellectual curiosity exists in microscopic doses.

That's how we get third rate windbags elected.
A feeble cheer-leading press = an ignorant electorate = the election of Barack Hussein Obama

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To be honest, every now and then when flipping past Fox I will stop if it's on O'Reilly, Hannity or Beck. It interests me to see the other side of an issue.
 
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You know all this hub bub over an administration going off on fox news reminds me a bit about the lack of hub bub when the previous administration went after NBC and the NY Times

Ah, but to the extent that is true (it wasn't quite the same thing; to my knowledge, the Bush White House never actually snubbed NBC, much as they complained, and most criticisms of the NYT had to do with publishing leaked classified info), the converse also applies -- many attacking Fox News NOW were just as rabid in their defense of those other news outlets.

So yeah, it's entirely about point of view, not principle, however you slice it.
 
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I cannot agree with you more and I watch CNN, MSNBC and other news sources as well as read the LA Times to be MORE informed. I may disagree with many of their Op Eds and OPINIONS, along with MSNBC's long lineup of Liberal talk shows, but you won’t see me campaigning to shut them down.

Instead, you will see me illustrating with evidence their obvious bias and attempts to water down bad news for their "Messiah."

I get my news from a variety of sources as well and I love nothing more than to read an OpEd from someone I don't agree with. It helps me to either confirm or question and further expand my own opinions. If all I ever did was read news I agree with, I think my intellect would stagnate and eventually rot. I'm the girl who will pick up a book by Ann Coulter or Micheal Moore and find something interesting in each one.
 
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I fail to see how that's so different from what Fox News is doing. Have you seen some of the stuff that Glenn Beck & Sean Hannity have been saying about the Obama Administration? I realize that they are political commentary shows, but the Obama Administration is attacking Fox News in general, not only the news shows. In fact, their cross-hairs are probably more on those two (and perhaps O'Reilly) than anyone else at Fox News.

How could they possibly have their crosshairs on O'Reilly when O'Reilly has been more fair to them than most of the rest of the network?
 
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