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    Re: White House Escalates War of Words With Fox News

    You're right. One of the things they DIDN'T do was act on the warnings about FannieMae and FreddieMac back in 2003, when they allowed themselves to be cowed by Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, & Co. into letting the corruption and mismanagement continue.
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    Re: White House Escalates War of Words With Fox News

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    You're right. One of the things they DIDN'T do was act on the warnings about FannieMae and FreddieMac back in 2003, when they allowed themselves to be cowed by Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, & Co. into letting the corruption and mismanagement continue.
    What exactly was Phil Gramm's role in the economic meltdown?
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldendog View Post
    What exactly was Phil Gramm's role in the economic meltdown?
    What exactly was it?
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    Re: White House Escalates War of Words With Fox News

    Quote Originally Posted by goldendog View Post
    I think it's more a combination of what they didn't do and what they refused to do along with policies and decisions they did do. None of which was in the best interests of America as a whole and most of which had to do with lamebrain decisions that sent our economy in a downward spiral. All while making every attempt to deny all of it. I say they should keep up that attitude towards our country...it tells me good things are in store for the Republican party.

    McCain suspended his campaign because the ecomony was in meltdown don't you remember?
    Oh, it's about what they didn't do? I see. That makes zero sense, Dog.

    So, what is it that they didn't do that caused the recession?
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    Re: White House Escalates War of Words With Fox News

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    White House Escalates War of Words With Fox News - Political News - FOXNews.com

    Calling Fox News "a wing of the Republican Party," the Obama administration on Sunday escalated its war of words against the channel, even as observers questioned the wisdom of a White House war on a news organization.

    "What I think is fair to say about Fox -- and certainly it's the way we view it -- is that it really is more a wing of the Republican Party," said Anita Dunn, White House communications director, on CNN. "They take their talking points, put them on the air; take their opposition research, put them on the air. And that's fine. But let's not pretend they're a news network the way CNN is."
    LOL...
    I guess this is their practice for their big day with I'minajihad.
    And then throwing in CNN... ROTFLMFAO... send this crew to Saturday Night Live.
    They could use some rich material.

    Why don't they talk about our enemies with half as much spine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    LOL...
    I guess this is their practice for their big day with I'minajihad.
    And then throwing in CNN... ROTFLMFAO... send this crew to Saturday Night Live.
    They could use some rich material.

    Why don't they talk about our enemies with half as much spine?

    LOL.

    That's hillarious!!!!
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: White House Escalates War of Words With Fox News

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    vauge, I don't think anyone here considers commentary news. However there is genuine news on Fox. I think we know that the shows like Hannity and O'Reilly are not intended to be pure news, but commentary. BTW, commentary is not necessarily untrue.
    To me, there's commentators, and there's WILD AND WACKY POLITICAL GUY WITH AN OPINION OF FORCE! *insert random metal music here*.

    One sounds reasonably intelligent, even if you completely disagree with him or her...the other is like some really bad scene from Idiocracy that was cut out in the storyboard room. It's like the difference between watching EJ Dionne talking and listening to this.[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRuNxHqwazs"]YouTube - Powerthirst[/ame] One can talk like a human being, the other has to scream, be rude, be totally manly, have stupidly loud and flashy intros between segments, and make sure that they put out a book with meaningless dribble every year or so that has been said by their colleagues a million times over.
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    Re: White House Escalates War of Words With Fox News

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    vauge, I don't think anyone here considers commentary news. However there is genuine news on Fox. I think we know that the shows like Hannity and O'Reilly are not intended to be pure news, but commentary. BTW, commentary is not necessarily untrue.
    To further your argument.


    December 19, 2004
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    LAMB: Is there anything wrong with a news organization taking or having a point of view?

    AILES: Well, I think there's a difference between news and analysis/opinion. What I saw them do -- they recently did a news meeting up at Stanford, which -- you know, heads of news at Stanford is sort of redundant. But in any case, no. If -- as long as you label it as -- you know, you know this is an opinion show.

    What they're trying to do is say that Fox News is mixing opinion and fact. That's just simply not true. I mean, if you watch Shep Smith's show at 7:00, I have no idea what Shep thinks politically. I don't see any particular agenda. Bias can be a lot of different ways -- story selection, story placement, story emphasis. There's a lot of ways you can create subtle bias. But the networks for years have mixed these things, and now they're claiming we mix it, when, in fact, Bill O'Reilly is a news analysis show, or Greta or somebody else, and the hard news we do is not in question. We haven't retracted a story in eight years.
    ---

    LAMB: On accuracy, is there a difference between Bill O'Reilly being accurate, or Sean Hannity, and, say, Brit Hume?

    AILES: Well, Brit doesn't do opinion television during his. Bill and Sean do opinions. And I think that's quite clear. So my opinion of something may not be accurate, based on facts, it is my opinion, whereas a hard news show really has to have the facts.

    And so there's an opinion segment at the end of Brit's show, where journalists -- now, we don't mix journalists and spinners, you know. Some shows do that. They'll take Bob Novak and Tucker Carlson and put them against two guys who can say they had lunch with Martians. There's no journalistic standard for spinners. There is a journalistic standard for journalists. So you either put spinners on the panel or you put journalists on the panel. If you do it the other way, the journalists will always lose because they simply can't say they had lunch with Martians.
    --

    LAMB: If you were to start your own journalism school, how would you teach it?

    AILES: I would just teach to do the facts, be fair, make sure that you’ve got the same weigh if there is more than one point of view to every point of view. I always tell our journalists, reach out to a point of view you don’t agree with and make sure it’s in that story.

    It’s simple stuff, but you have to do it. And I see the other networks -- I saw David Westin the other day take a shot at Fox News. Now David is the process of trying to turn himself into Fred Friendly, he’s a corporate lawyer who’s trying to be a great journalist. But he has got some problems.

    He’s the guy who wanted Leonardo DiCaprio to be a journalist for him. He’s the guy who had his head of politics during the election basically come out and say they didn't have to be fair, they should support Kerry in the debates. I find that odd. I think David's got a lot of work to do in house before he goes out taking a shot at us.
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    Re: White House Escalates War of Words With Fox News

    Gee, I hate to be a wet blanket and go back on topic, but I'm still waiting for disneydude and his like minded friends on the left to back up the following:

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude
    Obama is smart for not letting them get away with their smears and lies...
    Democrats have allowed the lies to go unchecked and paid the price (John Kerry for one)...
    Its time that FoxNews and the right-wing smear machine get called out when they post the outright lies that they do...
    FauxNews lies have been WELL documented.
    Apparently, Glenn Beck is also waiting for the White house to back up their bull too. Pay close attention at the 2:25 mark and tell me if this sounds at all familiar:

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4i2kB8vHLUU"]YouTube - Glenn Beck Installs "Hotline" Phone For White House To Call Him[/ame]

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