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    Re: White House Escalates War of Words With Fox News

    meanwhile, as the white house continues its preposterously petty, feeble minded and suicidal attack against fox, health care is being crafted in complete SECRECY by a compact cabal of insiders behind harry reid's closed door

    except that the majority leader abandoned dc last thursday to go home to nevada to fight for the seat he's likely to lose

    and obama the campaigner pledged all along to legislate all this stuff on cspan

    i guess brian lamb's public service channel is opinion journalism too, warrants another presidential boycott

    oh well

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    Re: White House [continues to] Escalates War on Fox News

    Quote Originally Posted by niftydrifty View Post
    according to the link, Obama didn't go on Fox because Obama didn't respect the network.

    a different reality is portrayed in Fox's version of the story.
    Funny that the White House doesn't dispute anything particular thing they say, isn't it?



    why did Fox create a misleading context for Dunn's answer, Goobieman?
    They didn't. They were absolutely accurate on Dunn.

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    I'm still amused they think this is somehow going to alleviate their problems. They are decreasing their audience and rallying loyal (or perhaps even passive) viewers against their administration by making them watch more Fox News. They shouldn't continue to focus this. Yes, make references over a period of time, but to make a campaign of it is getting them nowhere.

    This blackout technique by the Democrats for the past couple of years seems so flat out stupid to me.
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    Re: White House Escalates War of Words With Fox News

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    I'm still amused they think this is somehow going to alleviate their problems. They are decreasing their audience and rallying loyal (or perhaps even passive) viewers against their administration by making them watch more Fox News. They shouldn't continue to focus this. Yes, make references over a period of time, but to make a campaign of it is getting them nowhere.

    This blackout technique by the Democrats for the past couple of years seems so flat out stupid to me.
    I agree overall, as accurate as the WH's characterization of FNC as not a legitimate news network may be, there is little to be gained by having to what boils down to semantics debate about the integrity of editorial shows on a 'news' network.

    To fully understand what is being discussed, the listening/viewing audience needs to have basic understand of journalism, editorial and propaganda. How many Beck/Hannity fans consider their favorite show to be 'news'?

    What's been disturbing is the number of people in this thread who don't even question the objectivity of Hannity's 'fact-checking' segments. Yet, they will dismiss any vetting of these segments.

    Again, people with various backgrounds and occupations, may have no clue that what they're watching is NOT, by definition, news, but editorial or opinion.

    Fox does market itself as a 'news channel' and I think to the extent other legitimate new outlets do a better job of calling them out and identifying them for what they are--this could get some FNC regulars to watch their shows with a more of critical eye for bias.

    I tune into FNC to get their perspective (which I know to be right-leaning) and challenge my own views. Do all FNC viewers watch in this manner?

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    Re: White House Escalates War of Words With Fox News

    This is a brilliant move by the Whitehouse. Obama said, during his speech before the joint session of congress, that he would start "calling people out" if they interject a bunch of nonsense into the public debate while grown folks are discussing business. Fox is so rabidly right-wing that any neutral observer will quickly reach the same conclusion Obama did. Now, anyone citing Fox News as a source will be immediately discredited and even if Fox gets more viewers they will definitely have less believers. Great Move Obama!!!
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    Re: White House Escalates War of Words With Fox News

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    From the linked Politico article in this blurb:




    The WH clearly does not believe they made a mistake going down this path. I don't think they did either. It is a farce pretending they are a news organization.
    I suspect that you will need to update your opinion after the news ratings come out.
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    Re: White House Escalates War of Words With Fox News

    Quote Originally Posted by 10thJustice View Post
    This is a brilliant move by the Whitehouse. Obama said, during his speech before the joint session of congress, that he would start "calling people out" if they interject a bunch of nonsense into the public debate while grown folks are discussing business. Fox is so rabidly right-wing that any neutral observer will quickly reach the same conclusion Obama did. Now, anyone citing Fox News as a source will be immediately discredited and even if Fox gets more viewers they will definitely have less believers. Great Move Obama!!!
    Doubtful. This will backfire on them bigtime. I'm one of the neutral observers you mention.

    I started watching FOXNews about 4 years ago, mostly because I wanted to see for myself what all this vitriol they were getting from the left was based on. I was suprised to find that their actual news programs were as good, if not better, than CNN's. I was also surprised by the fact that O'Reilly was nowhere near as extreme as I was led to believe. Yes, they're obviously conservative, but that is not a bad thing. It's not about being a "believer", it's about the need to hear another point of view to get the whole picture.
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    Re: White House Escalates War of Words With Fox News

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    Doubtful. This will backfire on them bigtime. I'm one of the neutral observers you mention.

    I started watching FOXNews about 4 years ago, mostly because I wanted to see for myself what all this vitriol they were getting from the left was based on. I was suprised to find that their actual news programs were as good, if not better, than CNN's. I was also surprised by the fact that O'Reilly was nowhere near as extreme as I was led to believe. Yes, they're obviously conservative, but that is not a bad thing. It's not about being a "believer", it's about the need to hear another point of view to get the whole picture.
    No harm will come to the Whitehouse because they are not in the media business with Fox. But I think its about time that someone with authority render a final verdict about Fox News and its deceptive reporting. I don't think Fox can recover after being dissed by the POTUS. And you are dead wrong: Fox does not deliver a point of view that gives you the "whole picture", they give you a distorted picture. There is no way you can claim that news reports about "death panels", "euthanasia" and "secret plots" to install communism has added anything to the public debate in this country.
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    Re: White House Escalates War of Words With Fox News

    Anita Dunn's a 'tard. But I couldn't really care less about Fox vs. MSNBC or any of that crap. There's no way the govt really controls the media (thank jesus).

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    Re: White House Escalates War of Words With Fox News

    Here is a commentary by Brit Hume on this situation that left me in stitches.

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