White House Escalates War of Words With Fox News

Devil505 · Oct 20, 2009

Blackdog said:
Are you going to bash Bill the talking head O'Reilly or make a point valid to the thread?

I was responding to a member's comment about O'Reilly....who is now the voice of reason on Fox News!:lol:

ReverendHellh0und · Oct 20, 2009

Devil505 said:
Right! :lol::lol:

They ran the things@!

One quick link:
Think Progress Fox News’s ‘coverage’ of tea parties: 23 segments, 73 on-air promos in eight days.

Fox News’s ‘coverage’ of tea parties: 23 segments, 73 on-air promos in eight days.

As ThinkProgress has documented, Fox News has aggressively promoted today’s conservative, anti-Obama tea parties. A Media Matters analysis found that Fox dedicated 23 separate segments to the tea parties between April 6 and April 13; it aired at least 73 in-show and commercial promotions for the parties as well. Of all the Fox programs, Neil Cavuto’s “Your World” dedicated the most time to the tea parties:

So covering a story is organizing?

Media matters is a left wing hate group I trust them as much as I trust WND. :shrug:

Black Dog · Oct 20, 2009

Devil505 said:
Right! :lol::lol:

They ran the things@!

That is a lie.

Devil505 said:
One quick link:
Think Progress Fox News’s ‘coverage’ of tea parties: 23 segments, 73 on-air promos in eight days.

Fox News’s ‘coverage’ of tea parties: 23 segments, 73 on-air promos in eight days.

Covering or devoting time to something is not in any way running it.

Devil505 said:
As ThinkProgress has documented, Fox News has aggressively promoted today’s conservative, anti-Obama tea parties.

Promoting is not "running" anything. So if I promote the agenda of the White House I am running it? :lol: :2wave:

Devil505 said:
A Media Matters analysis found that Fox dedicated 23 separate segments to the tea parties between April 6 and April 13; it aired at least 73 in-show and commercial promotions for the parties as well. Of all the Fox programs, Neil Cavuto’s “Your World” dedicated the most time to the tea parties:

Irrelevant to your misrepresentation of the situation. Fox did not run the Tea Party's, sorry.

Devil505 · Oct 20, 2009

Reverend_Hellh0und said:
So covering a story is organizing?

Media matters is a left wing hate group I trust them as much as I trust WND. :shrug:

If your argument is that Fox news merely covered the teabag events...you need to do a better web search to see how involved they were in promoting them.

Erod · Oct 20, 2009

Devil505 said:
I guess you can prove any point you want with a link to somewhere.

Fox destroys MSNBC. It's like 25-1 in viewers.

Black Dog · Oct 20, 2009

Devil505 said:
I was responding to a member's comment about O'Reilly....who is now the voice of reason on Fox News!:lol:

Please point out who said he is the voice of reason at Fox news? Or are you misrepresenting again?

Gill · Oct 20, 2009

Devil505 said:
I guess you can prove any point you want with a link to somewhere. As far as O'Reilly is concerned...His radio & tv shows are infomercials to sell his books & products.
The man is boring & a joke. (always says "I'll give you the last word"....& then cuts their mic & takes the last word!)

The facts speak for themselves, but I noticed that you didn't dispute them either.

and... O'Reilly doesn't have a radio show.

I was responding to a member's comment about O'Reilly

and quite poorly I would add.

Right!

They ran the things@!

In your world, news coverage is now promoting??? :spin:

ReverendHellh0und · Oct 20, 2009

Devil505 said:
If you argument is that Fox news merely covered the teabag events...you need to do a better web search to see how involved they were in promoting them.

What is the point of using "teabag events" if you are trying to have an honest debate?

MSNBC promotes obama, are they "running" the presidency?

Devil505 · Oct 20, 2009

Blackdog said:
Please point out who said he is the voice of reason at Fox news? Or are you misrepresenting again?

I'll see if I can find it....Just heard it yesterday. Really is not a big point though. (it was stated as kinda an incredulous statement like......."Look who's the voice of reason on Fox News"...type of thing)
Are you claiming I didn't really hear that??...What do you want me to prove???

Devil505 · Oct 20, 2009

Gill said:
In your world, news coverage is now promoting??? :spin:

The way Fox News does it?.....Absolutely.....They are pushing an agenda...not covering the news.

(they are the media arm of the GOP & need to register as such)

Gill · Oct 20, 2009

Devil505 said:
The way Fox News does it?.....Absolutely.....They are pushing an agenda...not covering the news.

You are now dismissed as insignificant and hyper partisan.

Black Dog · Oct 20, 2009

Devil505 said:
I'll see if I can find it....Just heard it yesterday. Really is not a big point though. (it was stated as kinda an incredulous statement like......."Look who's the voice of reason on Fox News"...type of thing)
Are you claiming I didn't really hear that??...What do you want me to prove???

I want you to prove it, yes.

You say he is the voice of reason at Fox like someone at Fox said so, or a conservative political candidate. If it was stated (at all) by some liberal talking head it would not mean much now would it?

Devil505 · Oct 20, 2009

Gill said:
You are now dismissed as insignificant and hyper partisan.

You call it hyper partisan....I call it reality....So be it!

Black Dog · Oct 20, 2009

Devil505 said:
You call it hyper partisan....I call it reality....So be it!

It is hyper partisan for certain and has little to do with anything even close to reality.

You can deny it, but your posts bear witness.

PS All news networks have an agenda now days. What makes you partisan is you only want to call out conservative Fox and not the rest.

Devil505 · Oct 20, 2009

Blackdog said:
I want you to prove it, yes.

You say he is the voice of reason at Fox like someone at Fox said so, or a conservative political candidate. If it was stated (at all) by some liberal talking head it would not mean much now would it?

Political Animal

March 13, 2009

WHEN BILL O'REILLY IS THE VOICE OF REASON.... One of the right's more disgusting habits is exploiting violent tragedies for ideological gain. The Washington Monthly

OK...I proved I heard/Read it. Now do I have to prove it's true in your eyes??:lol:

10thJustice · Oct 20, 2009

Arcana XV said:
OH! I see! The POTUS dissed them, so that takes away ALL their credibility!! :rofl I wonder, did you feel this way about everything and everyone Bush dissed too? You know, when he was the POTUS and all?

Also, I did not say that Fox delivers a point of view that gives me the whole picture. I said that Fox was one, among dozens, of the news channels I watch that contributes to my vision of the whole picture. Their distortions are no worse than those I see on other news networks. They're just more colorful and a whole lot less boring. I'd rather endure an hour of Glen Beck's tearful rants, than 5 minutes of Keith Olberman's mind-numbingly boring BS. But that's just me. :lol:

Yeah, having your entire news program ripped by the Whitehouse is a devastating blow to your credibility because people assume the administration has conducted some sort of analysis, or study, or has some supportable basis for making such a bold declaration against a news station. Also, if he is lying about Fox, other news agencies would rush in to gather evidence to contradict the POTUS. The media is always looking to instigate a fight. So I don't think the Administration would make these statements on a recurring basis unless they are confident they could back it up. So far no one has contradicted them. And in politics; if a statement is uncontradicted for 72hours it becomes the truth. Credibility at Fox is dead!!! I never heard Bush publicly admonish an entire news agency for being partisan because I don't think he could prove it.

"Boring" is not a metric used to measure news worthiness. For instance Beck is more fun because he discusses such craziness as "secret communist plots" revealed in the architecture of New York City buildings :roll:. That's not news, that's pure entertainment. How does that nonsense "contribute to your vision of the whole picture"??? And exactly what "picture" are you looking for when you tune into news stories about Obama's secret plot to kill our grandmothers, and form domestic armies???

Devil505 · Oct 20, 2009

Blackdog said:
PS All news networks have an agenda now days. What makes you partisan is you only want to call out conservative Fox and not the rest.

I have consistently stated the same thing. What I argue against are those that claim Fox News has no bias.
Go back through my posts.....I clearly say that MSNBC has a liberal bias.....I have never said differently.
My problem is not with the bias ......it's trying to HIDE the bias behind a Fair & Balanced logo that is a lie. (& that's what the WH is saying as well)

N.Y. Time is liberal....... Wall St. Journal is conservative.....FINE.....Just don't ltry to hide it.

Black Dog · Oct 20, 2009

Devil505 said:
Political Animal

March 13, 2009

WHEN BILL O'REILLY IS THE VOICE OF REASON.... One of the right's more disgusting habits is exploiting violent tragedies for ideological gain. The Washington Monthly

OK...I proved I heard/Read it. Now do I have to prove it's true in your eyes??:lol:

Go back and actually read what I said. :roll:

I was absolutely correct. You got it from some liberal rag and it means nothing.

PS here is your original lie, I mean statement, stated as fact...

"I was responding to a member's comment about O'Reilly....who is now the voice of reason on Fox News!" - Devil505

Devil505 · Oct 20, 2009

Blackdog said:
Go back and actually read what I said. :roll:

I was absolutely correct. You got it from some liberal rag and it means nothing.

OK...Here it is:

Blackdog said:
I want you to prove it, yes.

You say he is the voice of reason at Fox like someone at Fox said so, or a conservative political candidate. If it was stated (at all) by some liberal talking head it would not mean much now would it?

I never said anything but that I heard it (or read it) I never claimed it was true. This is a silly thing to fight about......I said I heard it...you asked me to prove that I heard it/read it & I did!

(I never said it was true......it was a joke!)

Tough night last night Blackdog?

Black Dog · Oct 20, 2009

Devil505 said:
OK...Here it is:

I never said anything but that I heard it (or read it) I never claimed it was true. This is a silly thing to fight about......I said I heard it...you asked me to prove that I heard it/read it & I did!

(I never said it was true......it was a joke!)

Tough night last night Blackdog?

No it was not, you are a known liar.

"I was responding to a member's comment about O'Reilly....who is now the voice of reason on Fox News!" - Devil505

My night was fine, I just can't stand hyper partisan lying, what about you?

Devil505 · Oct 20, 2009

It was a joke....Get it?!?

If O'Reilly is the voice of reason at Fox news...

or

If GW Bush is the new MENSA king

or

If Adolf Hitler is now the head of the Jewish Rabbinical society

A JOKE

Devil505 · Oct 20, 2009

Blackdog said:
No it was not, you are a known liar.

This conversation is over.

I don't undderstand why people on the right need to resort to personal attack to make their point...but so be it!

Black Dog · Oct 20, 2009

No it was not, you are a known liar.

"I was responding to a member's comment about O'Reilly....who is now the voice of reason on Fox News!" - Devil505

My night was fine, I just can't stand hyper partisan lying, what about you?

PS Not an attack, a statement of fact proven time and time again.

Devil505 · Oct 20, 2009

Blackdog said:
No it was not, you are a known liar.

"I was responding to a member's comment about O'Reilly....who is now the voice of reason on Fox News!" - Devil505

My night was fine, I just can't stand hyper partisan lying, what about you?

I got it the first time.

Get angry as you like but the fact remains that Fox News is an arm of the GOP & I applaud the WH for calling them out.

(why did you thank my post above??....You don't have an alter-ego here.....do you??)

Gill · Oct 20, 2009

Devil505 said:
I got it the first time.

Get angry as you like but the fact remains that Fox News is an arm of the GOP & I applaud the WH for calling them out.

(why did you thank my post above??)

If I had to guess, he was hoping you not lying when you said you were not responding to his posts any more.

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