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    Re: White House Escalates War of Words With Fox News

    Axelrod Says Fox News Isn't News

    The White House stepped up its attacks on Fox News today with senior adviser David Axelrod declaring that the cable news network is "not really a news station" and that much of the programming is "not really news," reports Politico.

    Said Axelrod: "It's really not news -- it's pushing a point of view. And the bigger thing is that other news organizations like yours ought not to treat them that way, and we're not going to treat them that way. We're going to appear on their shows. We're going to participate but understanding that they represent a point of view."


    Axelrod Says Fox News Isn't News -- Political Wire

    From the linked Politico article in this blurb:

    (snip ... ) White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel said on CNN's "State of the Union" that Fox "is not a news organization so much as it has a perspective."

    (snip ... ) POLITICO has asked Fox News for a comment and will add it.

    On "Fox News Sunday," anchor Chris Wallace said the White House had declined to provide a guest.

    The WH clearly does not believe they made a mistake going down this path. I don't think they did either. It is a farce pretending they are a news organization.
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    Re: White House Escalates War of Words With Fox News

    This is exactly what Nixon did in '68, become the main talking point of your opponents and watch the rest of the world do the work. Criticize the President gently, but in all the right places at the right times. Then, as you attain the position of "Public Enemy No. 1" you can create a lake out of all your excess political, financial and moral capital.

    Fox News doesn't even need to promote itself anymore. It is now President Obama's closest opposite on all matters, if it was a candidate - we know it'd have the GOP nomination completely cinched. As it is, we know its dominance as America's leading news organization is cinched.

    When was the last time one of the Alphabet Soup news organizations recieved this sort of coverage? If you don't think it was bad for Obama to do this, and great for Fox News, you need to get your head checked. It's as simple as adding digits.

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    Re: White House Escalates War of Words With Fox News

    Quote Originally Posted by Metternich View Post
    This is exactly what Nixon did in '68, become the main talking point of your opponents and watch the rest of the world do the work. Criticize the President gently, but in all the right places at the right times. Then, as you attain the position of "Public Enemy No. 1" you can create a lake out of all your excess political, financial and moral capital.

    Fox News doesn't even need to promote itself anymore. It is now President Obama's closest opposite on all matters, if it was a candidate - we know it'd have the GOP nomination completely cinched. As it is, we know its dominance as America's leading news organization is cinched.

    When was the last time one of the Alphabet Soup news organizations recieved this sort of coverage? If you don't think it was bad for Obama to do this, and great for Fox News, you need to get your head checked. It's as simple as adding digits.

    Your post is interesting, b/c you mention Nixon's war on the press that commenced in '68, but then reach the conclusion that this was bad for Obama to do. Nixon rode that horse to a landslide re-election victory in '72. (Here's a snippet from an old 2003 Slate article about the press bias brawl):


    (snip ... ) Unlike previous presidents, Nixon had no interest in cultivating and spinning the press in his favor. He assigned Vice President Spiro T. Agnew the task of labeling the fourth estate "nattering nabobs of negativism" and protesting the TV commentators' critical "instant analysis" of Nixon's speeches. Oddly, the anti-press blitz commenced in November 1969, after nine months in which the press essentially left Nixon alone. Greenberg theorizes that the press wasn't Nixon's only intended audience. He wanted to communicate a political message directly to the public: that the liberal press was out of touch with what he called "middle America." Or, to put it another way, he used the age-old resentment of the press to punish the liberal elite. Nixon's message helped propel him to a landslide victory in 1972.

    The press bias brawl. - By Jack Shafer - Slate Magazine
    (snip ... )

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    Re: White House Escalates War of Words With Fox News

    My attitude is....why should Repub Presidents be the only ones allowed to abuse Executive Branch authority when they are in power?.......If I was President I would threaten to pull Fox News' FCC licenses unless they register as the media arm of the GOP.

    (then I suspend it anyway......Just for spite!)

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    Re: White House Escalates War of Words With Fox News

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    Your post is interesting, b/c you mention Nixon's war on the press that commenced in '68, but then reach the conclusion that this was bad for Obama to do. Nixon rode that horse to a landslide re-election victory in '72. (Here's a snippet from an old 2003 Slate article about the press bias brawl):


    I'm talking about him winning the nomination, silly. How a failed national and gubernatorial canidate managed to win, only a few years later, a strong bid for the Presidency.

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    Re: White House Escalates War of Words With Fox News

    Quote Originally Posted by Metternich View Post


    I'm talking about him winning the nomination, silly. How a failed national and gubernatorial canidate managed to win, only a few years later, a strong bid for the Presidency.

    He actually didn't start his war on the press until 9 mos after taking office, according to the article.

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    Re: White House Escalates War of Words With Fox News

    I'm talking about Nixon's criticism of LBJ and LBJ later deciding that it was Nixon, not Nelson Rockefeller, who was the main opponent. Not any wars on the press, I'm talking about how great it is for anybody (be it Nixon or Murdoch) to become the President's idealogical opposite. Because, above all else, opposite implies equal and equal implies what usually follows: wealth, political pull et al.

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    Re: White House Escalates War of Words With Fox News

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    My attitude is....why should Repub Presidents be the only ones allowed to abuse Executive Branch authority when they are in power?.......If I was President I would threaten to pull Fox News' FCC licenses unless they register as the media arm of the GOP.

    (then I suspend it anyway......Just for spite!)
    Then I would turn right around an sue your arse in Federal Court on 1st Adm Violation and then demand that Congress start Impeachment procedure.

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    Re: White House Escalates War of Words With Fox News

    Quote Originally Posted by Metternich View Post
    I'm talking about Nixon's criticism of LBJ and LBJ later deciding that it was Nixon, not Nelson Rockefeller, who was the main opponent. Not any wars on the press, I'm talking about how great it is for anybody (be it Nixon or Murdoch) to become the President's idealogical opposite. Because, above all else, opposite implies equal and equal implies what usually follows: wealth, political pull et al.

    oh, okay. Well, in any case, I can definitely see an upside for Barack Obama here, and seeing it, I don't feel the need to get my head checked, as you posted.

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    Re: White House Escalates War of Words With Fox News

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    Then I would turn right around an sue your arse in Federal Court on 1st Adm Violation and then demand that Congress start Impeachment procedure.
    Your court case would be thrown out as frivolous & you guys have absolutely no say in Congress anymore! ...Get used to it.

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