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    Ammunition Bill Signed into Law

    Ammunition Bill Signed into Law | News10.net | Sacramento, California | Local News


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    Moreover, this type of record keeping is no more intrusive for law abiding citizens than similar laws governing pawnshops or the sale of cold medicine. Unfortunately, even the most successful
    local program is flawed; without a statewide law, felons can easily skirt the record keeping requirements of one city by visiting another. Assembly Bill 962 will fix this problem by
    mandating that all ammunition vendors in the state keep records on ammunition sales.

    As Governor, I have sought the appropriate balance between public safety and the right to keep and bear arms. I have signed important public safety measures to regulate the sale and transfer of .50 caliber rifles, instituted the California Firearms License Check program, and promoted the use of microstamping technology in handguns. I have also vetoed many pieces of legislation that sought to place unreasonable restrictions and burdens on firearms dealers and ammunition vendors.

    Assembly Bill 962 reasonably regulates access to ammunition and improves public safety without placing undue burdens on consumers. For these reasons, I am pleased to sign this bill."

    Wow, it must hurt to have his head so far up his ass... This will do nothing for violent crime in California.. I guess I should stock up on ammo and open a stand on the border of California and Az and sell ammo to them.

    How do they plan on stopping people from going out of state to purchase? Further, how do they plan on stopping those same people from selling it to their friends?

    Stupid ****ing legislation, the gun grabbers just don't have any common ****ing sense.
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    Re: Ammunition Bill Signed into Law

    Wow.....wow. Thumb print customers...record their identification and report it to police!!! WTF ever happened to being able to secure your person, paper, and property against unreasonable search and seizure? Holy communists! More reasons as to why California should be kicked out of the Republic and sunk into the ocean.
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    Re: Ammunition Bill Signed into Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Wow.....wow. Thumb print customers...record their identification and report it to police!!! WTF ever happened to being able to secure your person, paper, and property against unreasonable search and seizure? Holy communists! More reasons as to why California should be kicked out of the Republic and sunk into the ocean.
    Actually, lets just kick everyone that lives there out and into the ocean.. then reoccupy it with people who are ****ing intelligent.
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    Re: Ammunition Bill Signed into Law

    I have 2 conditions for someting to qualify as "reasonable" limit on the right to keep and bear arms:
    1: It must have a demonstrably reductive effect on gun violence
    2: it must not violate the constitution.

    One of the bills that he signed was Assembly Bill 962.
    1: It requires handgun ammunition to be kept behind the counter where customers cannot access it without assistance.
    2: It also requires gun shop owners to thumbprint people who buy handgun ammunition, as well as record their identification and provide that information to police.
    1: So what? how does this accomplish anything?
    2: So what? how does this accomplish anything?

    This law does not pass the first condition.

    Further, registering people who buy ammunition is no different than registering people that buy guns. This is a precondition to the exercise of the right that is not inherent to the right itself, and therefore an infringement.

    Thus, this law does not pass the second condition.

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    Re: Ammunition Bill Signed into Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    I have 2 conditions for someting to qualify as "reasonable" limit on the right to keep and bear arms:
    1: It must have a demonstrably reductive effect on gun violence
    2: it must not violate the constitution.


    1: So what? how does this accomplish anything?
    2: So what? how does this accomplish anything?

    This law does not pass the first condition.

    Further, registering people who buy ammunition is no different than registering people that buy guns. This is a precondition to the exercise of the right that is not inherent to the right itself, and therefore an infringement.

    Thus, this law does not pass the second condition.

    I guess the idea is the thumbprint will probably be on the casing.. from when they loaded the ammunition... therefore they'll be able to track it back to whoever bought it... and stuff.
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    Re: Ammunition Bill Signed into Law

    Quote Originally Posted by stevenb View Post
    I guess the idea is the thumbprint will probably be on the casing.. from when they loaded the ammunition... therefore they'll be able to track it back to whoever bought it... and stuff.
    Which is, of course, meaningless.

    My thumbprint associated with a box or ammo means I bought the box of ammo. Nothing else.
    My thumbprint on a casing means I touched the casing with my thumb. Nothing else.

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    Re: Ammunition Bill Signed into Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Which is, of course, meaningless.

    My thumbprint associated with a box or ammo means I bought the box of ammo. Nothing else.
    My thumbprint on a casing means I touched the casing with my thumb. Nothing else.
    Well, those that think logically could deduce that..

    But we're talking about liberals...
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    Re: Ammunition Bill Signed into Law

    They're just trying to get their foot in the door...again...

    If they can't restrict firearms, they'll try to restrict ammo. they're insidious like that.
    Last edited by other; 10-12-09 at 05:15 PM.

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    Re: Ammunition Bill Signed into Law

    Quote Originally Posted by stevenb View Post
    Well, those that think logically could deduce that..
    But we're talking about liberals...
    Yes, well. liberals routinely display their inabaility to support a sound argument against guns.

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    Re: Ammunition Bill Signed into Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post

    Further, registering people who buy ammunition is no different than registering people that buy guns. This is a precondition to the exercise of the right that is not inherent to the right itself, and therefore an infringement.

    Thus, this law does not pass the second condition.


    You must register to vote to exercise your right to vote, so registration is not an infringement.

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