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    Re: Ammunition Bill Signed into Law

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    stupidity is bad no matter where it happens in this country. Libs in Ohio constantly try to impose gerbil-land laws in my state. I also support the fourteenth amendment and it is clear to me that the second was incorporated by that amendment.


    why do so many libs support gun laws-is it because you think they hassle mostly conservative voters?

    Unlike fickle states' righters .... I don't care what laws California makes for themselves. I don't live in California.

    And the question answer is: no. But, try to convince the victim-mentality-right otherwise, and you hit a brick wall. So many victims on the right. *sigh*

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    Re: Ammunition Bill Signed into Law

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    Unlike fickle states' righters .... I don't care what laws California makes for themselves. I don't live in California.

    And the question answer is: no. But, try to convince the victim-mentality-right otherwise, and you hit a brick wall. So many victims on the right. *sigh*
    Ah the evasions-so typical



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    Re: Ammunition Bill Signed into Law

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Unless you are licensed by the state and fed to sell ammo, it's illegal.
    It not illegal to buy ammunition from one state and take it to another, and you do not need a license to re-sell ammunition you bought from somewhere else.

    What is your problem with this bill?
    See my first post...

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    Re: Ammunition Bill Signed into Law

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    You dirty Harry-wanna-be's don't get it.
    You don't get it. That's for sure.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Ammunition Bill Signed into Law

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    No problem ... I'll register to vote, and you register to buy a gun. We're all set.
    I believe I explained to you why/how there is a difference here.
    Did you not understand?

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    Re: Ammunition Bill Signed into Law

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    It's fun seeing a conservative from Ohio get all worked up about an ammunition law in California. I thought conservatives were all for states' rights? Oh wait ...
    This is willfull ignorance.
    Nowhere in the 'states rights' position is there an argument for states having the right to violate the US Constitution.

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    Re: Ammunition Bill Signed into Law

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    Local LEOs said it helps in crime solving, according to linked article.
    You know what would help LEO to solve crimes? Cameras everywhere. If they can just search whatever they want whenever they want. I mean, helping LEO solve crime in and of itself isn't legitimate reason to infringe upon the rights of the individual.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Ammunition Bill Signed into Law

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    It's fun seeing a conservative from Ohio get all worked up about an ammunition law in California. I thought conservatives were all for states' rights? Oh wait ...
    There is a lot to be done on the State side. Just because someone says they believe in moving more power to the States than the federal government doesn't mean that they support government tyranny and treason. Suggesting that is nothing but an intellectually weak ploy to deflect away from the questions.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Ammunition Bill Signed into Law

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    It's fun seeing a conservative from Ohio get all worked up about an ammunition law in California. I thought conservatives were all for states' rights? Oh wait ...
    Hmm, looks like someones trying to win an oscar in the "Best obtuse act" category.

    People are in favor of states rights, as they are outlined in the constitution. Namely, the federal government only can extend its reach to the things the constitution states is under their umbrella, and beyond that is the states. However, the Constitution states which rights government, universally, can not touch....assembly, search and siezure, bare arms, etc. As such, being upset with a state trying to enact a law that potentially violates the 2nd amendment is not outside of the scope of "states' rights" but is actually directly in line with the philosophy as that philosophy is rooted within the constitution and from that same foundation we have the understanding that states should not be passing laws that violate the constitution, which those complaining about this generally feel.

    Sorry, I hope I didn't ruin your oscar bid.

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    Re: Ammunition Bill Signed into Law

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Ah the evasions-so typical
    What evasion? I answered your question. Answer was no.



    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    I believe I explained to you why/how there is a difference here.
    Did you not understand?
    You did? Since my response that you quoted was a response to someone else's question, I don't know what you're talking about. Besides, there's no difference. You register to buy a gun, I'll register to vote.



    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    This is willfull ignorance.
    Nowhere in the 'states rights' position is there an argument for states having the right to violate the US Constitution.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    You know what would help LEO to solve crimes? Cameras everywhere. If they can just search whatever they want whenever they want. I mean, helping LEO solve crime in and of itself isn't legitimate reason to infringe upon the rights of the individual.

    I don't have a problem with CCTV, but some libs do. You're next statement is a direct violation of the 4th amendment (but that didn't stop the gov't under the Bush regime, see sneak and peek searches in Patriot Act), who says you have the right to buy ammo without showing ID? I don't see that anywhere. You gotta show ID to buy lots of stuff. You don't want to show ID, don't buy the stuff.



    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    There is a lot to be done on the State side. Just because someone says they believe in moving more power to the States than the federal government doesn't mean that they support government tyranny and treason. Suggesting that is nothing but an intellectually weak ploy to deflect away from the questions.
    Suggesting that something you don't like is tyranny and treason is intellectually weak.

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