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    Support Grows to End 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell'

    Support Grows to End 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell'

    Support Grows to End 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' - WSJ.com


    WASHINGTON -- Congress could be receptive to President Barack Obama's pledge to end a 16-year-old policy banning gay people from serving openly in the military, a top Democratic lawmaker said. The Pentagon also signaled openness to a change.



    Mr. Obama's comments could spark criticism from conservatives and some supporters who say the administration must set different priorities.
    .Speaking at a human-rights dinner in Washington Saturday, Mr. Obama pledged to end the "don't ask, don't tell" policy, which allows homosexuals to serve in the military as long as they don't disclose their sexual orientation or act on it. The president, who made a similar pledge during the campaign, didn't provide a timetable for reversing the policy.

    Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman Carl Levin (D., Mich.) said it was now possible "to get a buy-in from the military" to end a policy opposed by gays and many liberals since it was passed by Congress in 1993. But Mr. Levin, appearing on NBC's "Meet the Press" on Sunday, cautioned that the effort had to be handled "with thoughtfulness and with care."



    Look, Once again, Obama is demonstrating an inability to deal with priorities. While troops await his decision on how we are going to proceed in A-stan, Obama re-pledges to end the DADT policy in the military...


    Now as one who doesn't care about who you do, I don't care about DADT, and prefer we did not make our service about our genitalia. That said. I think this is an ill time to start addressing the DADT policy. At least make a decision on what we are doing in A-stan before you start changing social policies in the military.
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    Re: Support Grows to End 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell'

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Look, Once again, Obama is demonstrating an inability to deal with priorities. While troops await his decision on how we are going to proceed in A-stan, Obama re-pledges to end the DADT policy in the military...


    Now as one who doesn't care about who you do, I don't care about DADT, and prefer we did not make our service about our genitalia. That said. I think this is an ill time to start addressing the DADT policy. At least make a decision on what we are doing in A-stan before you start changing social policies in the military.
    This one can be added to your (growing) list of invalid criticisms....once again diluting from any valid ones.
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    Re: Support Grows to End 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell'

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    This one can be added to your (growing) list of invalid criticisms....once again diluting from any valid ones.



    you can simply choose not to post. I mean, take your hands off Obama's junk for once in your life.


    DADT is a legitimate issue, Obama spoke at a gay meeting on it, and they are pissed at him for not keeping his promise.


    I think when he ends it, it will be the right thing to do. But, BUT, when we have troops sitting in A-Stan waiting for a mission. Monkeying around with social policies in that same military, is ill timed.


    If you have nothing intelligent to add but you hyper-partisan mantrums, perhaps you should find some sand and go pound it.
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    Re: Support Grows to End 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell'

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    you can simply choose not to post. I mean, take your hands off Obama's junk for once in your life.


    DADT is a legitimate issue, Obama spoke at a gay meeting on it, and they are pissed at him for not keeping his promise.


    I think when he ends it, it will be the right thing to do. But, BUT, when we have troops sitting in A-Stan waiting for a mission. Monkeying around with social policies in that same military, is ill timed.


    If you have nothing intelligent to add but you hyper-partisan mantrums, perhaps you should find some sand and go pound it.
    This original post is nothing other than a hyper-partisan mantrum....much like most of your threads.

    The whole premise that a President can only focus on one issue at a time is just plain silly.

    Like I said....add this to your list of invalid criticisms. If you spent a fraction of your energy focusing on legitimate criticism...
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    Re: Support Grows to End 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell'

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    This original post is nothing other than a hyper-partisan mantrum....much like most of your threads.

    Funny how you only go after right wingers supposed "hyper-partisanism".... Kinda Ironic, no?


    The whole premise that a President can only focus on one issue at a time is just plain silly.

    Strawman, I never made this argument.



    Like I said....add this to your list of invalid criticisms. If you spent a fraction of your energy focusing on legitimate criticism...


    Please provide me a list of "legitimte critisizm", crying like a toddler everytime I mention your god king demonstrates you as nothing but an obama apparachik.
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    Re: Support Grows to End 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell'

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    If you spent a fraction of your energy focusing on legitimate criticism...
    From what I can see, you don't consider ANY criticism of Obama to be legitimate.

    It's not Obama's job to detail troop movements & strengths, but it is his job to work with the DOD to determine what the goals in Afghanistan are, and what we will consider "winning." Until he's done that, he isn't doing his job, and he's keeping the military from doing theirs.

    From what I can tell, the most valid criticism of Obama that I can offer is that he thinks he's a spokesperson, and not commander in chief and/or CEO of this country. He's about giving speeches and making public appearances, but he appears to have no grasp of the administrative aspects of his job.

    And I'm saying this as someone who voted for him.
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    Re: Support Grows to End 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell'

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    From what I can see, you don't consider ANY criticism of Obama to be legitimate.

    It's not Obama's job to detail troop movements & strengths, but it is his job to work with the DOD to determine what the goals in Afghanistan are, and what we will consider "winning." Until he's done that, he isn't doing his job, and he's keeping the military from doing theirs.

    From what I can tell, the most valid criticism of Obama that I can offer is that he thinks he's a spokesperson, and not commander in chief and/or CEO of this country. He's about giving speeches and making public appearances, but he appears to have no grasp of the administrative aspects of his job.

    And I'm saying this as someone who voted for him.








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    Re: Support Grows to End 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell'

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post




    On the fair side of things, though, I have to say that I think he is waiting to allow the military to propose the ending of DADT, and I think that's the right approach.

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    Re: Support Grows to End 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell'

    Once again, I think Obama can walk and chew gum at the same time. The increase of 20,000 forces he okayed six months ago in AFG is still being deployed, so it's not like there's 40,000 troops waiting on the sidelines to be parachuted in should he decide to go along with McCrystals' plan.

    This could be a good thread to stay on the topic of DADT, a silly policy whose time needs to end. We ask our gay soldiers to fight and even die for our freedom and rights, but then want to deny them theirs?

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    Re: Support Grows to End 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell'

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    On the fair side of things, though, I have to say that I think he is waiting to allow the military to propose the ending of DADT, and I think that's the right approach.



    I agree with this. What I don't like is his stump speaches about it like he's a canidate still. All while they sit thier waiting to find out what the mission is in A-stan.
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