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    Re: Support Grows to End 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell'

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    oh spare me. There are many who have served that feel differently.



    Well you are not either. So lets not have you speak for us.
    You should try to remember, ideas are conveyed by researching information, vetting sources, and confirming said information. Not by regurgitating talking points given to you by your "news" station.
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    Re: Support Grows to End 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell'

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    oh spare me. There are many who have served that feel differently.
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    Re: Support Grows to End 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell'

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Well you are not either. So lets not have you speak for us.
    I always love this debate tactic.....its an absolute sign of weakness.
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    Re: Support Grows to End 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell'

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    I always love this debate tactic.....its an absolute sign of weakness.



    You show me one soldier, airman, marine, in A-stan, who thinks this wait is not a bad thing.


    Go on. Find me one who thinks hanging out in a warzone with no mission waiting for Obama to decide is a good thing... .
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    Re: Support Grows to End 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell'

    Let's clarify...

    Do you think the military needs a clear mission and defined end terms for Afghanistan? Yes or no.

    Do they have these at present? Yes or no?

    Whose job is it to define these terms? ____________________

    I'd like Joe and DD to respond to these 3 questions, please.

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    Re: Support Grows to End 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell'

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Let's clarify...

    Do you think the military needs a clear mission and defined end terms for Afghanistan? Yes or no.

    Do they have these at present? Yes or no?

    Whose job is it to define these terms? ____________________

    I'd like Joe and DD to respond to these 3 questions, please.



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    Re: Support Grows to End 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell'

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    No actually, they are in a hold pattern with no direction. This hold pattern started under Bush, and continues under Obama.

    Ever been in a situation, where you are being shot at, and you have to wait weeks to find out if you are going to fight back, or retreat?
    Well I can see you are going to stick to your rhetoric, no matter how duplicitous. So I'll dig in my heels and repeat mine:

    The problem with Afghanistan is, there is nothing to win. McChrystal’s plan, to me, acknowledges that. He doesn’t speak of winning anything; he speaks of not losing.

    McChrystal’s plan calls for a increase of our forces as "security" while trying to massively increase Afghan forces so we turn it all over to them. But as the last eight years have shown, the locals don’t want to fight. At least not for us.

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    Re: Support Grows to End 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell'

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe1991 View Post
    Well I can see you are going to stick to your rhetoric, no matter how duplicitous. So I'll dig in my heels and repeat mine:

    The problem with Afghanistan is, there is nothing to win. McChrystal’s plan, to me, acknowledges that. He doesn’t speak of winning anything; he speaks of not losing.

    McChrystal’s plan calls for a increase of our forces as "security" while trying to massively increase Afghan forces so we turn it all over to them. But as the last eight years have shown, the locals don’t want to fight. At least not for us.



    Rhetoric? How about real world "been there done that"?


    And if there is "nothing to win" why are you not for a full imediate withdrawal?
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    Re: Support Grows to End 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell'

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Rhetoric? How about real world "been there done that"?


    And if there is "nothing to win" why are you not for a full imediate withdrawal?
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    Re: Support Grows to End 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell'

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    You show me one soldier, airman, marine, in A-stan, who thinks this wait is not a bad thing.


    Go on. Find me one who thinks hanging out in a warzone with no mission waiting for Obama to decide is a good thing... .
    The fact that you believe that your service gives you carte blanche to speak for everyone in the military is simply laughable.
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