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    Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Obama reaffirms will end 'don't ask, don't tell' - Yahoo! News

    President Barack Obama pledged to end the ban on homosexuals serving openly in the military in a speech Saturday, but acknowledged to a cheering crowd that the policy changes he promised on the campaign trail are not coming as quickly as they expected.


    DADT was a horrible policy from the start. Clinton should have ended the ban on gays in the military rather than agreeing to this compromise.
    Thank You President Obama for standing on your principles.

    DADT rewarded lying and deceit and punished honesty. It doesn't take much of a brain to understand that there is obviously something wrong with that.
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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Obama reaffirms will end 'don't ask, don't tell' - Yahoo! News

    President Barack Obama pledged to end the ban on homosexuals serving openly in the military in a speech Saturday, but acknowledged to a cheering crowd that the policy changes he promised on the campaign trail are not coming as quickly as they expected.


    DADT was a horrible policy from the start. Clinton should have ended the ban on gays in the military rather than agreeing to this compromise.
    Thank You President Obama for standing on your principles.

    DADT rewarded lying and deceit and punished honesty. It doesn't take much of a brain to understand that there is obviously something wrong with that.

    Good news...unfortunately it's up to Congress, not the President.

    I can only hope this ancient policy goes away.

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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    All fine and dandy but who is going to go and tell the Military that they are going to have to change the UCMJ. Oh wait they can't because it's a US Code which can't be changed unless The United States Supreme court rule's it and the USSC has never overturned any UCMJ.

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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    What? Congress can change the UCMJ whenever it likes.
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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    What? Congress can change the UCMJ whenever it likes.
    No it can't the UCMJ is controlled by the Courts not Congress

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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    All fine and dandy but who is going to go and tell the Military that they are going to have to change the UCMJ. Oh wait they can't because it's a US Code which can't be changed unless The United States Supreme court rule's it and the USSC has never overturned any UCMJ.
    Scorp...does the US military(all branches) conduct themself under the authority of the Commander in Cheif of the United States?

    Are you suggesting that the UCMJ is written in stone and cannot be changed even if ordered too do so by the Commander in Cheif?

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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Quote Originally Posted by goldendog View Post
    Scorp...does the US military(all branches) conduct themself under the authority of the Commander in Cheif of the United States?

    Are you suggesting that the UCMJ is written in stone and cannot be changed even if ordered too do so by the Commander in Cheif?
    Yes not even the President can order the UCMJ change the only way they(UCMJ) can be changed is by the United States Supreme Court. This is why we have the Don't ask Don't Tell.

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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    Yes not even the President can order the UCMJ change the only way they(UCMJ) can be changed is by the United States Supreme Court. This is why we have the Don't ask Don't Tell.
    I'm not sure where you're getting this, but this is just incorrect. Congress instituted DADT and Congress can repeal DADT any time it wants.

    The courts have absolutely minimal control over anything the military does.
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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    As to the OP, I'll believe it when I see it.

    The dems in the NY State Senate had been promising to legalize gay marriage for years, but said that they couldn't do it because there was Republican control over one house and a Republican governor. Now, they've had all three branches for over a year and we still don't have a bill. It's bull****.
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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    I'm not sure where you're getting this, but this is just incorrect. Congress instituted DADT and Congress can repeal DADT any time it wants.

    The courts have absolutely minimal control over anything the military does.
    No the only the Supreme Court can change actual parts of the UCMJ, the DADT was a compermise that the USSC let the Military and Congress come up with.

    Look up section 925 Art. 125 of the UCMJ, this is why DADT came to be also to a lesser part section 907 Art. 107
    Last edited by Scorpion89; 10-10-09 at 11:15 PM.

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