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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    The problem with females on ships is that the smaller the department/division, the more it hurts when one or more are suddenly preggers prior to deployment and no time to replace them.
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    Exactly, you walk around Naval Station Bremerton or Sub Base Bangor and all you see is pregnant female sailors but that is another thread so I will drop it.....
    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Yep, one of the several reasons - like we said in another thread, you have to be able to depend on your soldiers and when the get knocked up (it happens often, either unplanned or quite intentionally - pregnancy rates in the ranks skyrocket before deployment), or are out because of a monthly-cramp day they are no longer dependable. . .these natural factoids of being female are the reason why females in the service are an issue.
    Pretty simple to require birth control as a contingency of enrollment in the armed forces. (IUD, IUC, Implant, etc) If they don't want to abide by using such a device, then they can not join the armed forces.

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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Pretty simple to require birth control as a contingency of enrollment in the armed forces. (IUD, IUC, Implant, etc) If they don't want to abide by using such a device, then they can not join the armed forces.
    Yeah, go ahead and try that, you woman hater!!!

    Seriously, everytime the Navy tries to make punishment for pregnant sailors they get ripped apart by the feminist crowd.
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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Pretty simple to require birth control as a contingency of enrollment in the armed forces. (IUD, IUC, Implant, etc) If they don't want to abide by using such a device, then they can not join the armed forces.
    Not as simple as you would think, since it would be very illegal.
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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Yeah, go ahead and try that, you woman hater!!!

    Seriously, everytime the Navy tries to make punishment for pregnant sailors they get ripped apart by the feminist crowd.
    Women who get pregnant in the military while deployed should be dishonorably discharged.

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    Not as simple as you would think, since it would be very illegal.
    Why would it be illegal? It would be purely their choice, what's illegal about letting them choose?

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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Women who get pregnant in the military while deployed should be dishonorably discharged.
    Absolutely agree, but there'd be public outrage.
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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Absolutely agree, but there'd be public outrage.
    In the Army, we just put the pregnant chicks on Rear Detachment. That way we can still get something out of them.

    Those that get pregnant on deployment are sent home and their careers are basically over. That's the choice they make. I would hope that they are busy enough on deployment not to be getting laid.

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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Quote Originally Posted by kansaswhig View Post
    In the Army, we just put the pregnant chicks on Rear Detachment. That way we can still get something out of them.

    Those that get pregnant on deployment are sent home and their careers are basically over. That's the choice they make. I would hope that they are busy enough on deployment not to be getting laid.
    Well, lets not forget that it take two to tango - and while one reaps the unfortunate side of pregnancy, the other just gets off without a hitch.
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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Well, lets not forget that it take two to tango - and while one reaps the unfortunate side of pregnancy, the other just gets off without a hitch.


    Ah yes...It's all the man's fault....I tell ya..This could spring into a debate about abortion without missing a beat.



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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Women who get pregnant in the military while deployed should be dishonorably discharged.
    They used to do that too, before it...became illegal.



    Why would it be illegal? It would be purely their choice, what's illegal about letting them choose?

    it would be illegal, because the miltiary can't force a soldier to undergo medical treatment, against that soldier's will.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Ah yes...It's all the man's fault....I tell ya..This could spring into a debate about abortion without missing a beat.



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    LOL - I didn't say it was all man's fault.
    I said it takes two to tango.

    You said:
    That's the choice they make. I would hope that they are busy enough on deployment not to be getting laid.
    And i simply pointed out that in the act of getting knocked up involves two people getting laid, not just one. . .sex in the service happens all the time, it only becomes a problem when the chick becomes pregnant and unavailable.

    I feel that women in this day and age have no excuses for "oops, I'm pregnant" - maybe 100 years ago (but, also noting, that 100 years ago we weren't allowed in the military in strong part becaues of this very same issue) - but not now. The government has ensured that birth control in one form or many forms are available either for free or for a reduced cost.

    However - the fault I see is that they don't require women who want to be in the military to be on BC of some nature ... citing rights violations and blah blah.

    In my opinion - they should make it mandate ... If you want ot join you have to submit to __ or __ and in order to receive your BC you have to show up, log in, and see the Dr.

    If someone doesn't want to accept that - they shouldn't sign up.
    If someone doesn't want the government telling them what to do with their bodies they shouldn't sign up (kind of a no brainer, here)
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