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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    Hmm you sure about that my Dad was a JAG Lawyer and JAG Judge the last 10 Years of his Military Service.
    Well if your Dad thinks the way you do. He is wrong too. Sorry.
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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    This is why DADT can't be changed.

    925. ART. 125. SODOMY
    (a) Any person subject to this chapter who engages in unnatural carnal copulation with another person of the same or opposite sex or with an animal is guilty of sodomy. Penetration , however slight, is sufficient to complete the offense.
    (b) Any person found guilty of sodomy shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.

    End of the discussion the reason why DADT was enacted was because of this section. The USSC has refused to rule this or any part of the UCMJ Un-Constitutional hence the reason DADT was enacted christ folks go and ****ing learn the UCMJ
    Scorp the UCMJ does not superceed the authority of the Commander in Chief.

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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Statutory law can be changed at anytime by the us congress.
    But it's not Satutory Law what you don't think they would have changed it back in 1996 if they could have huh really think about it. Hence DADT was enacted.

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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Quote Originally Posted by goldendog View Post
    Scorp the UCMJ does not superceed the authority of the Commander in Chief.
    Yes it does the CoC can't just decide to change the UCMJ anytime he/she feels like it. Same as the CoC can't go and change any US Laws because he/she doesn't like them.

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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    AND READ THIS SECTION OF THE UCMJ

    925. ART. 125. SODOMY
    (a) Any person subject to this chapter who engages in unnatural carnal copulation with another person of the same or opposite sex or with an animal is guilty of sodomy. Penetration , however slight, is sufficient to complete the offense.
    (b) Any person found guilty of sodomy shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.

    End of discussion DADT can't be changed.

    So I expect all of you folks who work at the Pentagon to stop by my office on Tues. PM me and I'll give you my office and floor # and then we can have anice chat with some of the JAG folks at the Pentagon.
    I don't think anyone here wants you to get fired, so I don't foresee this happening.
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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Quote Originally Posted by scorpion89 View Post
    but it's not satutory law what you don't think they would have changed it back in 1996 if they could have huh really think about it. Hence dadt was enacted.
    Read this!!!

    The uniform code of military justice (UCMJ, 64 stat. 109, 10 u.s.c. Chapter 47), is the foundation of military law in the united states.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ucmj

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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    Yes it does the CoC can't just decide to change the UCMJ anytime he/she feels like it. Same as the CoC can't go and change any US Laws because he/she doesn't like them.
    But do you know who can? I'll give you 3 guesses.
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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Quote Originally Posted by goldendog View Post
    Scorp the UCMJ does not superceed the authority of the Commander in Chief.
    Which has been my argument throughout this thread. Obama, as Commander in Chief, CAN issue an executive order ending Article 125, as well as DADT. Thank you for "getting it".
    Last edited by danarhea; 10-10-09 at 11:45 PM.
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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    But it's not Satutory Law
    Yeah:

    The UCMJ is 10 USC 47. I linked you to it a few posts back. It's statutory law. Period.

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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Well if your Dad thinks the way you do. He is wrong too. Sorry.
    Actually my Dad was part of the Team the came up with DADT so once agin folks who might know something about this huh?????

    When Section 925 Art. 125 was thrown into the mix the discussion went to the USSC for a ruling the USSC came back and stated that neither Congress nor the President could over tunr the UCMJ for politacl reason, the Military had the right ot have certain Laws that while outside the US Military could be consider UN-Constitutional with-in the Military it was decide for Good Order Section 925 Art. 125 couldn't be over turned.

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