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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Most imnportantly, it will likely not get the 60 votes in the Senate.
    Please explain why Army policy needs congressional approval and not merely the instructions of the commander in chief?

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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If someone interprets that comment as a sexual advance, then expect to get charged with sexual harrassment. That person's insecurity and paranoia is irrelevant. There's no regulation against insecurity, or paranoia, but there's damn sure a very vague and ambiguous definition of sexual harrassment.
    If that is can be interpreted as sexual harassment and taken seriously then there are a plenty of non-sexual things that could be interpreted as sexual harassment. It's a very slippery slope.

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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Quote Originally Posted by goldendog View Post
    Rape is when you recieve the penis not when you give it..because of closeted desires that are triggered due too a openly gay man taking a shower with them in a community shower.

    The paranoia and overall fear of such a devopement must be overwhelming...don't you agree?
    You can throw the homophobe argument out there all you like, but it jut don't work like that in the military.
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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    In my experience, all those things would be blatant sexual harrassment, in the Army. I can't speak for the other branches, but in the Army, those comments will definitely get your ass in a crack, if a female soldiers is suddenly offended by it.
    So how would you change SH if you could?

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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    If that is can be interpreted as sexual harassment and taken seriously then there are a plenty of non-sexual things that could be interpreted as sexual harassment. It's a very slippery slope.
    You're absolutely right. There are many non-sexual acts that, in the Army, are interpreted as sexual harrassment. Simply helping a female do her job, just because she's a female, is considered sexual harrassment. Holding the door open for a female soldier can be considered sexual harrassment, especially if she out-ranks you.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    So how would you change SH if you could?
    I would segregate units by gender.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You're absolutely right. There are many non-sexual acts that, in the Army, are interpreted as sexual harrassment. Simply helping a female do her job, just because she's a female, is considered sexual harrassment. Holding the door open for a female soldier can be considered sexual harrassment, especially if she out-ranks you.
    Please show a case where this has happened. I think you are talking out your ass on this. Nothing in all the classes I took on this topic in the military suggested anything like that would be sexual harassment.
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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You can throw the homophobe argument out there all you like, but it jut don't work like that in the military.
    The hell it doesn't...Without homophobes there would be no arguement.

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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Haven't gay men served in the Navy for decades now, I don't see the big deal here, seems the people have settled this long ago?

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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Please explain why Army policy needs congressional approval and not merely the instructions of the commander in chief?
    DADT is part of the UCMJ, not the rules and regulations as described in the Constitution.



    Quote Originally Posted by Jackboot View Post
    Haven't gay men served in the Navy for decades now, I don't see the big deal here, seems the people have settled this long ago?
    A couple of them blew each other up on the Iowa, too. Remember that?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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