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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    I might know a little bit more on said subject.
    Or you might not. The UCMJ is statutory law. That's all there is to it.
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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    I'll ask you the same question how long have you been working for the DoD and how long have you been at The Pentagon huh, I might know a little bit more on said subject. He can't change DADT that was part of the Comp. when Mr. Clinton order DADT be enacted.
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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    I'll ask you the same question how long have you been working for the DoD and how long have you been at The Pentagon huh, I might know a little bit more on said subject. He can't change DADT that was part of the Comp. when Mr. Clinton order DADT be enacted.
    So you are saying it took an executive order to enact it, but an executive order cannot repeal it?

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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Obama can also issue an executive order abolishing Art. 125. Of course, there is a little bit of a hypocritical "gotcha" in doing this, because it would tend to go against Obama's opposition of the unitary president theory. But Bush opened up the door for him on this one. Like him or not, Bush frequently WAS the decider, based on his own use of executive orders. Obama could be a decider too, if he wants to be. And since the Democrats control Congress now, there won't be nearly as much opposition to an Obama executive order as there was to Bush's executive orders. Question is, does Obama have the guts to do it. Bush had the guts, and did it.
    No he can't order any part of the UCMJ to be abolished it would be a violation of the US Constitution only the USSC can over turn any part of the UCMJ.

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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Quote Originally Posted by goldendog View Post
    So you are saying it took an executive order to enact it, but an executive order cannot repeal it?
    Yes have any of you actually read the UCMJ ???? You do understand that unlike normal US Law the UCMJ are held to a different stander and when DADT was enacted it took a Comp between Congress/DoD/USSC and Mr. Clinton.

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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    No he can't order any part of the UCMJ to be abolished it would be a violation of the US Constitution only the USSC can over turn any part of the UCMJ.
    What article of the Constitution gives the Supreme Court the power to enact or amend provisions of the US Code? Let's see the specific language.
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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    No he can't order any part of the UCMJ to be abolished it would be a violation of the US Constitution only the USSC can over turn any part of the UCMJ.
    That is not the case at all.

    And of course, I am arguing that, if Obama wants to embrace the use of executive orders the way Bush did during his presidency, he would be able to end DADT all on his own. If Congress disagreed strongly enough, THEN the Supreme Court could get involved, but only to determine whether the Unitary Executive theory was Constitutional or not.
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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    I learned military law from a former Deputy Secretary of Defense. I'm betting he was more familiar with the ins and outs of the UCMJ than you are.
    Hmm you sure about that my Dad was a JAG Lawyer and JAG Judge the last 10 Years of his Military Service.

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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    Yes have any of you actually read the UCMJ ???? You do understand that unlike normal US Law the UCMJ are held to a different stander and when DADT was enacted it took a Comp between Congress/DoD/USSC and Mr. Clinton.
    Here it is:

    US CODE: Title 10,CHAPTER 47&mdash;UNIFORM CODE OF MILITARY JUSTICE

    Point out the provision which makes it different from any other statutory law.
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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    Hmm you sure about that my Dad was a JAG Lawyer and JAG Judge the last 10 Years of his Military Service.
    So what? My stepfather was an ophthalmologist, but I know nothing at all about eye surgery.
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