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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    How so? There's nothing to suggest a sexual advance by merely being open about your sexual orientation. Anyone who would get offended by such a thing would have be incredibly insecure and paranoid.
    If someone interprets that comment as a sexual advance, then expect to get charged with sexual harrassment. That person's insecurity and paranoia is irrelevant. There's no regulation against insecurity, or paranoia, but there's damn sure a very vague and ambiguous definition of sexual harrassment.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    You're probably right -- The Obama needs to get Congress to do it, and that's nowhere near a certainty.
    He can't pull it off and neither can Congress. If it was that easy, they would have already done it.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    This might be Obama's lone accomplishment while in office.

    That, and winning the Nobel Peace Prize and the Heisman Trophy.
    No, he'll pass healthcare. - I don't want to take this thread OT, though...
    Last edited by reefedjib; 10-12-09 at 04:33 PM.

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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    So, let's forget about gay issues for a moment... What would it take to reasonably redefine what SH is all about? I mean making a pass is not SH. Neither is making a suggestive comment. "I'll spank your ass" variety. But verbally harrassing a female about what you are going to do to her if you catch off-post would be some sort of crime, though not necessarily SH. Physically groping would be. Then how do you prove it? What is the standard of proof now? Her accusation is probably enough, right? That's gotta change too. What do you think? It's a tricky problem.
    In my experience, all those things would be blatant sexual harrassment, in the Army. I can't speak for the other branches, but in the Army, those comments will definitely get your ass in a crack, if a female soldiers is suddenly offended by it.

    Her accusation is probably enough, right?
    That's exactly right.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    No, he'll pass healthcare. - I don't want to take this thread OT, though...
    He won't do that, either.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    He can't pull it off and neither can Congress. If it was that easy, they would have already done it.
    Most imnportantly, it will likely not get the 60 votes in the Senate.

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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Yeah, it's called, "rape". Happens all the time.
    Rape is when you recieve the penis not when you give it..because of closeted desires that are triggered due too a openly gay man taking a shower with them in a community shower.

    The paranoia and overall fear of such a devopement must be overwhelming...don't you agree?

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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    He won't do that, either.
    I got a $1...make it 2?

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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Most imnportantly, it will likely not get the 60 votes in the Senate.
    Especially when you consider that there are more Dems who are combat vets than Republicans.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    I got a $1...make it 2?
    I'll make it two hundred, hell...
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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