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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Oh, so there's something wrong with all those straight soldiers out there? Is that it? Nevermind all the great service they've given us over the past 234 years.
    They are forced to repress those certain urges and really don't know what to do with their penis if a gay man were to appear in the shower with them. It is very threatening..wouldn't ya agree.

    All the "openly" gay person wants to do is take a shower.
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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Well, in the near term, I was just thinking about gays in the military. My suggestion to extend this to co-ed situations was half-humorous, half-serious, but most certainly at some point in the distant future. I would be happy to see women serve in combat units first, with separate shower facilities.
    I would be happy to see women in combat arms units, as long as they were all female units.

    The US has a very strange obsession with the naked body, regardless of your sexual preference. Probably rooted in our puritanical orgins. It is equated with sex instead of just being a naked body. In Germany, where I was stationed, I used to ride my bike out to the local quarry. There was a beach and water you could swim in. Germans used to go frequently and when Germans go to the beach they strip down naked. Beautiful women were a bonus, to be sure, but you got old folks and fat folks and young kids and everything - buck naked. After the initial shock, being an American and unused to such a display, it wore off and it just started seeming to be natural. Sure, I still looked at the beautiful women, as did practically every man there, but it stopped being a stare as that's rude.

    This aversion to nudity can be overcome in the military. That's what leadership is all about.
    I think it would be bad policy to force soldiers to accept situations that are outside their upbringing. Telling soldiers that they have to stop being Americans and be somone else that is more PC acceptable would have a negative outcome, IMO.
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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    Why would that be their right? Are they generally allowed now to refuse to bunk near someone they don't like?
    A soldier would be well within his/her rights to refuse to billet with a gay soldier. The same way that you can't force males and females to billet together.
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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I would be happy to see women in combat arms units, as long as they were all female units.



    I think it would be bad policy to force soldiers to accept situations that are outside their upbringing. Telling soldiers that they have to stop being Americans and be somone else that is more PC acceptable would have a negative outcome, IMO.


    What? Telling soldiers to serve with honor with whoever they are posted with is un-American? Since when?

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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I would be happy to see women in combat arms units, as long as they were all female units.
    Then they could break out in pillow fights in the barracks. :::schwing!:::
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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Quote Originally Posted by goldendog View Post
    They are forced to repress those certain urges and really don't know what to do with their penis if a gay man were to appears in the shower with them. It is very threatening..wouldn't ya agree.

    All the "openly" gay person wants to do is take a shower.
    That's like saying that all a male soldier wants to do in a female shower, is take a shower. But, that just ain't the way it works.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    A soldier would be well within his/her rights to refuse to billet with a gay soldier. The same way that you can't force males and females to billet together.
    NEWSFLASH2: Gay men are not women, gay women are not men. You are, as always, dead wrong.
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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    A soldier would be well within his/her rights to refuse to billet with a gay soldier. The same way that you can't force males and females to billet together.

    No he/she wouldn't, he'd/she'd likely be in violation of 'Don't Ask'

    And, a bigoted scaredy soldier, too.

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    Re: Obama reaffirms will end "Don't ask Don't tell"

    Quote Originally Posted by StandUpChuck View Post
    Then they could break out in pillow fights in the barracks. :::schwing!:::
    Or, one of their fellow companies could use NVG's to look into their barracks at night...lol. (been there, done that)
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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