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    Re: Woman who carried gun to daughter's football match found shot and killed

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    I have no problem with guns I own them and I have a permit to carry. I just don't like people showing or flaunting guns just becasue they can. The right to bear arms is near sacred and it should not be depreciated by bufoons.
    imo, you're the worst type of gun owner.

    "it's a right, but it shouldn't be a visible right."

    Get the **** over yourself.
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    Re: Woman who carried gun to daughter's football match found shot and killed

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    yes they said that she and her husband were having some problem so this looks like a domestic. Sadly they had three children who are now without parents. Not only was she stupid but she and maybe her husband were centered jerks who have hurt their own children emotionally for life.

    What the bufoonette woman was saying at that soccor game was Oh look at me " I have a Gl0ck " , "ain't I just so cool".

    I do not think that the founding fathers envisioned an idiot like that Hahn woman to use the 2nd admendment soley to display her weapon at a children's game. She and other bufoons have and are doing more harm to the 2nd ademndment by acting like morons than the anti- gun freakbags.
    Well actually, it's not as if she was going around brandishing the gun, pulling it out, pointing it at things. She had it in a hip-holster. Yes, it was visible, but it wasn't really like she was showing it off like a new toy. The original story said that she carried it like that everywhere.

    And I have to disagree with you about who the founding fathers would have envisioned as an idiot. Especially if you disregard the fact that she was a woman. During the time of our founding fathers, it was not uncommon at all for men, and even a few women, to walk around with an openly displayed, holstered pistol. Even after the war was over. Think about the old west. If the founding fathers had a problem with this, they could have included some sort of caveat into the 2nd Amendment concerning public displays of weapons in peacetime.
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    Re: Woman who carried gun to daughter's football match found shot and killed

    A gun is not an adequate protection.


    You also need to train, and train often.


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    Re: Woman who carried gun to daughter's football match found shot and killed

    Quote Originally Posted by stevenb View Post
    imo, you're the worst type of gun owner.

    "it's a right, but it shouldn't be a visible right."

    Get the **** over yourself.
    There is a difference between carrying a weapon and displaying it because you are under a threat and just carrying a weapon and displaying it just because you want to be a 6 year old with a 40 year old body. There is nothing gained for the acceptance and continued support of the 2nd amendment if you are carrying and showing because you are a yahoo.

    People who display just for the sake of displaying must be short of something in their life and /or character. They really must have a visual version of a Napoleon complex.
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    Re: Woman who carried gun to daughter's football match found shot and killed

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    A gun is not an adequate protection.

    You also need to train, and train often.

    We don't rise to our levels of expectation, but fall to the level of our training.
    Absolutely correct. A gun is called a deadly weapon for a reason and that is that it can deliver death. It is a tool and lke all tools you need to be competent in using it or you can hurt others such as loved ones who you are supposed to be protecting.

    A weapon is not a stage prop or oart of a Holloweenie costum.

    If I may add to your logical and intelligent post you also need to know and practice gun safety.

    I follow gun use rules very strictly and one of the most important ones is you never hand a weapon to anyone without checking to make sure it is not loaded. Unless of course you are shooting skeet and it is your turn to load. Even at that I always practice the rule that I tell the person that it is loaded even if he just watched me load it. Yes that sounds anal but the people who I practice with or hunt with have not had even a near accident.
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    Re: Woman who carried gun to daughter's football match found shot and killed

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Well actually, it's not as if she was going around brandishing the gun, pulling it out, pointing it at things. She had it in a hip-holster. Yes, it was visible, but it wasn't really like she was showing it off like a new toy. The original story said that she carried it like that everywhere.

    And I have to disagree with you about who the founding fathers would have envisioned as an idiot. Especially if you disregard the fact that she was a woman. During the time of our founding fathers, it was not uncommon at all for men, and even a few women, to walk around with an openly displayed, holstered pistol. Even after the war was over. Think about the old west. If the founding fathers had a problem with this, they could have included some sort of caveat into the 2nd Amendment concerning public displays of weapons in peacetime.
    She was a bufoon not becasue she was a woman she was a bufoon because of her actions. IT's as a neighbor of hers said "She was not right ". Why becasue she carried a weapon while shopping at Kohls's ( a POPULAR woman's department store in the Noerteast).

    Ok you have a right to drive a car and play your stereo if you want to. You can ( sans any anti-noise laws) play your srereo as bleeping loud as you want. Yet should you do that ?

    The reasonable non bufoon type person will not. Then there are the others.
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    Re: Woman who carried gun to daughter's football match found shot and killed

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    She was a bufoon not becasue she was a woman she was a bufoon because of her actions. IT's as a neighbor of hers said "She was not right ". Why becasue she carried a weapon while shopping at Kohls's ( a POPULAR woman's department store in the Noerteast).

    Ok you have a right to drive a car and play your stereo if you want to. You can ( sans any anti-noise laws) play your srereo as bleeping loud as you want. Yet should you do that ?

    The reasonable non bufoon type person will not. Then there are the others.
    You didn't seem to address most of my post. For starters, I said to disregard the fact that she was a woman because, in the 1800s, our founding father's time, women were most definitely second class citizens. At least some, if not most of the founding fathers, were probably sexist, so I'm not really sure how they would have felt about her carrying the gun only because she's a woman. However, if you disregard her gender and envision what the founding fathers would have thought about a citizen carrying a holstered pistol to a kids' sporting event, they probably would not have thought anything bad at all about the person. They most likely would have figured that it was being carried as protection, which is the truth.

    Personally, I'd be much more concerned about people who are carrying concealed then the person carrying their gun visibly in a holster. At least I can see who has a gun when it's carried like she did.

    As for the neighbor's comment that she wasn't right, that really doesn't mean a whole lot. If someone doesn't like guns, then they could have said it about her just for her carrying a gun. Also, who knows what her neighbors were like. Judging a person from what the neighbors say does not necessarily mean that you are getting an accurate description. I have had plenty of neighbors say that my family "wasn't quite right", that doesn't make it true.
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    Re: Woman who carried gun to daughter's football match found shot and killed

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    I have no problem with guns I own them and I have a permit to carry. I just don't like people showing or flaunting guns just becasue they can. The right to bear arms is near sacred and it should not be depreciated by bufoons.
    There's nothing wrong with carrying open.

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    Re: Woman who carried gun to daughter's football match found shot and killed

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    She was a bufoon not becasue she was a woman she was a bufoon because of her actions. IT's as a neighbor of hers said "She was not right ". Why becasue she carried a weapon while shopping at Kohls's ( a POPULAR woman's department store in the Noerteast).
    What about a clothing store makes it an inappropriate place to carry?

    Government buildings I get.

    Prisons I get.

    A mall...not so much.

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    Re: Woman who carried gun to daughter's football match found shot and killed

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    Absolutely correct. A gun is called a deadly weapon for a reason and that is that it can deliver death. It is a tool and lke all tools you need to be competent in using it or you can hurt others such as loved ones who you are supposed to be protecting.

    A weapon is not a stage prop or oart of a Holloweenie costum.

    If I may add to your logical and intelligent post you also need to know and practice gun safety.

    I follow gun use rules very strictly and one of the most important ones is you never hand a weapon to anyone without checking to make sure it is not loaded. Unless of course you are shooting skeet and it is your turn to load. Even at that I always practice the rule that I tell the person that it is loaded even if he just watched me load it. Yes that sounds anal but the people who I practice with or hunt with have not had even a near accident.

    Gun saftey is 10% of training. 90% is how and when to shoot.


    never point a gun at anything you don't want to destroy.


    If someone hands you a gun, check it yourself.
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