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    Rights activists see double standard in Twitter arrest

    The criminal complaint against Madison said he broke the law by using Twitter to direct unlawful protesters and other people involved in criminal acts to avoid arrest and to inform them of police movements and actions. Twitter allows subscribers to publish 140-character text messages.
    There is an old piece of technology that does this too, its called a scanner but yet those arent illegal.

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    Re: Rights activists see double standard in Twitter arrest

    So now it is even illegal to inform the general public about where the 'state sponsored dissenter quellers' might beat you down at?
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    Re: Rights activists see double standard in Twitter arrest

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    So now it is even illegal to inform the general public about where the 'state sponsored dissenter quellers' might beat you down at?
    Duh. How are they supposed to do their jobs of beating down those who dare protest any state action if they are thwarted by technology? It's just fine, however, for them to use any technology in order to find people to beat down, or to use during the beatdown. It's also just fine to beat down anyone who looks suspicious, or who might even look suspicious at some point.

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    Re: Rights activists see double standard in Twitter arrest

    In regards to these parts of the article:

    The criminal complaint against Madison said he broke the law by using Twitter to direct unlawful protesters and other people involved in criminal acts to avoid arrest and to inform them of police movements and actions.
    Here is what I believe they are thinking....

    If I were to tell a bank robber that just robbed a bank that police were coming around the corner, I would be aiding someone that broke the law and thus would be prosecuted. But in this case I am directly helping the person that broke the law.

    In the case of twiiter, you would have to prove intent that he was doing the twitter SPECIFICALLY to aid the people that broke the law.

    EDIT: I don't think they will be able to prove intent and they will have to drop it IMO.
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    Re: Rights activists see double standard in Twitter arrest

    The criminal complaint against Madison said he broke the law by using Twitter to direct unlawful protesters and other people involved in criminal acts to avoid arrest and to inform them of police movements and actions. Twitter allows subscribers to publish 140-character text messages.
    If that's what he did, then yep, it's illegal. It's been illegal for years now. It's called, "aiding and abetting a crime".
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    Re: Rights activists see double standard in Twitter arrest

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    In regards to these parts of the article:



    Here is what I believe they are thinking....

    If I were to tell a bank robber that just robbed a bank that police were coming around the corner, I would be aiding someone that broke the law and thus would be prosecuted. But in this case I am directly helping the person that broke the law.

    In the case of twiiter, you would have to prove intent that he was doing the twitter SPECIFICALLY to aid the people that broke the law.

    EDIT: I don't think they will be able to prove intent and they will have to drop it IMO.
    I wonder then... If I state the location of a DUI checkpoint and some random drunkard heard it. Avoided the checkpoint and accidentally killed someone with his car. Would I be criminally responsible?

    And if I did it for the purpose of helping a criminal intentionally but never let anyone know that. Then am I still?

    I think with the 'state sponsored dissent quellers' often enveloping innocent protesters in their little crackdowns that the purpose of the tweets where more than likely helping people practice free speech.

    Although if this guy was targeting a few individuals and had a plot to commit a damaging crime then OK. If he was putting his tweets out to an unselected audience then he is totally innocent.

    If this is a problem then we all need to vote and maybe make reporting on police activities and exclusive crime.
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    Re: Rights activists see double standard in Twitter arrest

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    I wonder then... If I state the location of a DUI checkpoint and some random drunkard heard it. Avoided the checkpoint and accidentally killed someone with his car. Would I be criminally responsible?
    Again, I still believe that you wouldn't be responsible, because it would be on the burden of the state to show you had intent to specifically help that person that broke the law. I don't think they could show intent.

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    Re: Rights activists see double standard in Twitter arrest

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    I wonder then... If I state the location of a DUI checkpoint and some random drunkard heard it. Avoided the checkpoint and accidentally killed someone with his car. Would I be criminally responsible?
    Yes, you would.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Yes, you would.
    No. I wouldn't.
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    Re: Rights activists see double standard in Twitter arrest

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    And if I did it for the purpose of helping a criminal intentionally but never let anyone know that. Then am I still?
    That would be like asking if someone robbed a bank and you specifically helped the person escape would you be criminally responsible. Of course you would.

    But in the twitter case, they would have to show intent.

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