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    Re: DHS Napolitano orders Sheriff Arpaio to stop looking for illegal aliens

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    . . .Arpaio is a local problem that should be dealt with using local power.
    Arpaio is a local (and national) hero. That's why he's been in office for so long.

    an open border that adjoins a disintegrating near-third-world country however is a problem that is being predictably ignored by the current incompetent, perhaps criminal Administration.
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    Re: DHS Napolitano orders Sheriff Arpaio to stop looking for illegal aliens

    Quote Originally Posted by stevenb View Post
    None against me, cause I'm not running against him.. or attempting to stop him from doing "his job".


    If you'd like to look for yourselves, there happens to be a whole bunch of cases that he's got pending against various city counsel members.. and the new times... who are his "enemies" in this state.
    Is there any actual evidence to prove the charges are trumped up or is this some of the pro-criminal/scumbag sympathizer rhetoric of "Oh No!!! Joe is hard on criminals and actually arrest illegals we must stop him somehow"? Somehow I think your claim is influenced by the latter of the two
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    Re: DHS Napolitano orders Sheriff Arpaio to stop looking for illegal aliens

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Is there any actual evidence to prove the charges are trumped up or is this some of the pro-criminal/scumbag sympathizer rhetoric of "Oh No!!! Joe is hard on criminals and actually arrest illegals we must stop him somehow"? Somehow I think your claim is influenced by the latter of the two
    Wow, you're a ****ing idiot.

    Where have I said *anything* about not appreciating the *actual* criminals he's apprehending?

    Nowhere, so please simmer down the ****ing stupidity.

    His methods are extremely unconstitutional and I don't agree with them.

    Sheriff's deputies arrest 'New Times' owners

    Case was dropped btw... nevermind the other bull**** he's doing.
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    Re: DHS Napolitano orders Sheriff Arpaio to stop looking for illegal aliens

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    How exactly does one conduct a "street patrol" looking for illegal immigrants?
    Given Arpaio's other publicity seeking and highly unethical behavior, I am not exactly trusting of his actions. However, I don't like the Homeland Security getting involved either. Arpaio is a local problem that should be dealt with using local power.



    I find it far less "ethical" for the DHS to order this sherrif to do something that harms our security.
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    Re: DHS Napolitano orders Sheriff Arpaio to stop looking for illegal aliens

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Under what authority does a local sheriff have the right to physically remove people from the country?
    From the story:
    Under Sheriff Arpaio, his department has either identified in jail, or arrested on the street more than 30,000 illegal aliens in and around Phoenix, AZ
    I dont see anything mentioning "physically remove people from the country".
    Straw, man.

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    Re: DHS Napolitano orders Sheriff Arpaio to stop looking for illegal aliens

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    Yes it is when the State and Local Govn. have there own Laws hence the 10th Adm you might want to go and read what the 10th says.
    10th Amendment?.... that's the Constitution, right?.... Libs have no understanding or use for the Constitution.

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    Re: DHS Napolitano orders Sheriff Arpaio to stop looking for illegal aliens

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    10th Amendment?.... that's the Constitution, right?.... Libs have no understanding or use for the Constitution.
    The question is if a state has the power to enforce federal law, absent a request from the federal government to do so and/or in the face of a request by the federal government to NOT do so.

    However that question is answered, the DHS director hgas NO power to order a sheriff to NOT enforce any related state laws.
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    Re: DHS Napolitano orders Sheriff Arpaio to stop looking for illegal aliens

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    The question is if a state has the power to enforce federal law, absent a request from the federal government to do so and/or in the face of a request by the federal government to NOT do so.

    However that question is answered, the DHS director hgas NO power to order a sheriff to NOT enforce any related state laws.
    Watch her try though.
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    Re: DHS Napolitano orders Sheriff Arpaio to stop looking for illegal aliens

    Even if everything the left is saying about the guy is true, there are proper channels for disciplinary action. Ordering him to stop enforcing the law is a bad move.

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    Re: DHS Napolitano orders Sheriff Arpaio to stop looking for illegal aliens

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    It depends upon why they are doing it.
    Actually, it doesn't depend on anything at all. It is written in black and white, in the Constitution, that all powers not expressly given to the Federal government belong to the states, and to the people.

    It's quite simple, actually. No need to look for a reason to believe otherwise. It is stated to a certainty in the Constitution.


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