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    Re: GOP Fails to Remove Rangel

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Are Democrats on this thread the only ones in existence?? It is obvious that Democratic members of Congress ARE defending him as much as possible.
    I don't know what they could be thinking. After calling the GOP the party of corruption, they should show that they don't like corruption. I'm disgusted with their stupidity and hypocrisy.

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    Re: GOP Fails to Remove Rangel

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Has it been proven in court that DeLay is guilty of anything???
    Has Rangel been indicted?

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    Re: GOP Fails to Remove Rangel

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    I don't know what they could be thinking. After calling the GOP the party of corruption, they should show that they don't like corruption. I'm disgusted with their stupidity and hypocrisy.
    2010 is coming up, I know you can be the payback type aps, but in a nice way, why not come over to the evil side for once and teach them a lesson.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: GOP Fails to Remove Rangel

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    Has Rangel been indicted?
    I don't remember if it was an official indictment, but evidentiary pretty much had him dead bang, someone will have a better answer than myself on this.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: GOP Fails to Remove Rangel

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    I don't remember if it was an official indictment, but evidentiary pretty much had him dead bang, someone will have a better answer than myself on this.
    My point was that I believe he HAS to step down if he is indicted (even if the facts show he's guilty, I think he has to be indicted first). Otherwise, I think he can stay on unless removed by the head honchos.

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    Re: GOP Fails to Remove Rangel

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    My point was that I believe he HAS to step down if he is indicted (even if the facts show he's guilty, I think he has to be indicted first). Otherwise, I think he can stay on unless removed by the head honchos.
    If he is indicted, the House Ethics committee must initiate an investigation. No action must be taken until the Ethics committee makes a final determination. Then the person still may not lose his position unless the House leaders think it is advantageous to replace him. Even after a Felony Convition, there is no requirement that a member lose their committee seat or leadership position.

    http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RL33229.pdf

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    Re: GOP Fails to Remove Rangel

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    I don't know what they could be thinking. After calling the GOP the party of corruption, they should show that they don't like corruption. I'm disgusted with their stupidity and hypocrisy.
    Thing is, aps, I don't think the Dems were defending him. They were not jumping to conclusions before an official investigation. Nothing wrong with that.
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    Re: GOP Fails to Remove Rangel

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Thing is, aps, I don't think the Dems were defending him. They were not jumping to conclusions before an official investigation. Nothing wrong with that.
    Very good point. I must confess that I haven't read up on this whole thing. I based my criticism on the first paragraph of Eugene Robinson's editorial today (which I will read at some point today):

    House Democrats had better start taking the ethics allegations against Rep. Charlie Rangel seriously. I know it's difficult for those steeped in Capitol Hill's hermetic culture to understand, but a verdict of "mistakes were made" -- which a lot of Democrats would like to reach -- doesn't cut it in the real world. Strange as it seems. Seriously.

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    He's a die-hard Dem, so I take his words seriously.

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    Re: GOP Fails to Remove Rangel

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    Very good point. I must confess that I haven't read up on this whole thing. I based my criticism on the first paragraph of Eugene Robinson's editorial today (which I will read at some point today):



    He's a die-hard Dem, so I take his words seriously.
    Well if that's the case, then yeah, it's wrong to defend him. Once proven guilty, he should not be defended. Let's hope the era of "I dunno," "I forgot," and "I can't remember" is over. No one forgets their income or what they own, especially one who freakin' writes tax legislation.
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    Re: GOP Fails to Remove Rangel

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Thing is, aps, I don't think the Dems were defending him. They were not jumping to conclusions before an official investigation. Nothing wrong with that.

    What is wrong with this is the hypocrisy being shown. Mark Foley was not convicted of anything. Neither was Tom Delay. Yet the Dems were more than happy to DEMAND their immediate loss of all leadership positions, etc. even before charges were filed.

    They should at least be consistent and demand the same level of personal responsibility as they demanded from Republicans.

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