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CD&V wants to legalize sex at 14

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Le député CD&V Raf Terwingen a préparé une proposition de loi visant à clarifier les règles relatives à l'âge minimal autorisé pour les relations sexuelles consentantes. La proposition prévoit d'autoriser les caresses intimes et le sexe oral à partir de 14 ans.

Les avocats et magistrats dénoncent depuis des années le manque de clarté de la législation belge sur le sujet. Il existe en effet des contradictions entre divers textes juridiques, en particulier ceux relatifs au viol et à l'attentat à la pudeur. Dans certains cas, l'âge minimal pour une relation sexuelle consentante est fixé à 14 ans. Dans d'autres, le seuil est de 16 ans.

7s7 Belgique - Le CD&V veut légaliser le sexe à partir de 14 ans (1011928)

"CD&V Deputee Raf Terwingen has written a law proposition that would clarify rules about the minimum age for consenting sexual relations. It would legalize oral sex and rubs at 14 years old.

Advocates and judges have long been denouncing the lack of clarty of the legislation about this topic. Indeed, there are condradictions between different laws, especially about rape. In certain cases, the minimum age for sexual relations is 14, while in other cases it is 16 years"

What do you think? Isn't 14 a bit young? And are these cases (of young teens having sex) not too rare to make a law about it?
 
Meh, that's not a huge deal IMO. 14 is the norm in most of Europe and Latin America. 16 is the norm in the Anglosphere.
 
Meh, that's not a huge deal IMO. 14 is the norm in most of Europe and Latin America. 16 is the norm in the Anglosphere.

Apparently it was already nearly the norm here, but I'm still quite surprised. I'm quite open minded about sexuality questions, but I can't imagine teens having sex at that age!
 
I think a lot of people don't remember what it was like to be that age. I remember that when I was 14 sex was all I ever thought about. I never did it at that age, but if the opportunity had presented itself, I'm sure I would have. ;)
 
7s7 Belgique - Le CD&V veut légaliser le sexe à partir de 14 ans (1011928)

"CD&V Deputee Raf Terwingen has written a law proposition that would clarify rules about the minimum age for consenting sexual relations. It would legalize oral sex and rubs at 14 years old.

Advocates and judges have long been denouncing the lack of clarty of the legislation about this topic. Indeed, there are condradictions between different laws, especially about rape. In certain cases, the minimum age for sexual relations is 14, while in other cases it is 16 years"

What do you think? Isn't 14 a bit young? And are these cases (of young teens having sex) not too rare to make a law about it?

So do they plan on changing the Law for how old you can be to be charged as an Adult for Crimes,buy and consume alcohol,get a driver's licence,be drafted into the Military, when you can leave school,voting age.

Or is this just a way for that Scum Roman Polanski to get off with rape of a child.

Oh and who is going to tell the UN that they need to change the International Age Limit, so much for France trying to stop Child Trafficing and Explotation.

PS: This is a Blog :2wave:
 
7s7 Belgique - Le CD&V veut légaliser le sexe à partir de 14 ans (1011928)

"CD&V Deputee Raf Terwingen has written a law proposition that would clarify rules about the minimum age for consenting sexual relations. It would legalize oral sex and rubs at 14 years old.

Advocates and judges have long been denouncing the lack of clarty of the legislation about this topic. Indeed, there are condradictions between different laws, especially about rape. In certain cases, the minimum age for sexual relations is 14, while in other cases it is 16 years"

What do you think? Isn't 14 a bit young? And are these cases (of young teens having sex) not too rare to make a law about it?

After passing a Law that says: "It's "OK" for you to have sex with a 14 year old girl/ boy... Pass a "Law" that says I have to reveal where your body is.:lol:

Just an observation.
 
So do they plan on changing the Law for how old you can be to be charged as an Adult for Crimes,buy and consume alcohol,get a driver's licence,be drafted into the Military, when you can leave school,voting age.

No?

Scorpion89 said:
Or is this just a way for that Scum Roman Polanski to get off with rape of a child.

Uhh Roman Polanski is being held in Switzerland. This is a BELGIAN story.

Scorpion89 said:
Oh and who is going to tell the UN that they need to change the International Age Limit, so much for France trying to stop Child Trafficing and Explotation.

What are you talking about?
 
If they are to reduce the age to 14, they should stipulate WHO the 14 year olds are having sex with. There is a huge difference between a 14 year old having sex with another 14 year old and a 14 year old having sex with a 29 year old.

I don't know where to draw the line, but there should be SOME point that separates natural curiosity/drive/or whatever you want to call it and exploitation.
 
If they are to reduce the age to 14, they should stipulate WHO the 14 year olds are having sex with. There is a huge difference between a 14 year old having sex with another 14 year old and a 14 year old having sex with a 29 year old.

I don't know where to draw the line, but there should be SOME point that separates natural curiosity/drive/or whatever you want to call it and exploitation.

Polanski,,,at 44 years old, raping a 13 year old girl. After giving her Drugs, and Liquor.

Has the "Line" been passed?:doh
 
7s7 Belgique - Le CD&V veut légaliser le sexe à partir de 14 ans (1011928)

"CD&V Deputee Raf Terwingen has written a law proposition that would clarify rules about the minimum age for consenting sexual relations. It would legalize oral sex and rubs at 14 years old.

Advocates and judges have long been denouncing the lack of clarty of the legislation about this topic. Indeed, there are condradictions between different laws, especially about rape. In certain cases, the minimum age for sexual relations is 14, while in other cases it is 16 years"

What do you think? Isn't 14 a bit young? And are these cases (of young teens having sex) not too rare to make a law about it?

14 was the age of consent even in parts of the US (namely, Hawaii), until last year.
In many states in the US, teens can still legally marry at 14 with parental consent or judicial bypass, although the age of consent in these states (for non-married individuals) is higher.
 
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Polanski,,,at 44 years old, raping a 13 year old girl. After giving her Drugs, and Liquor.

Has the "Line" been passed?:doh

Certainly, yes.
 
If they are to reduce the age to 14, they should stipulate WHO the 14 year olds are having sex with. There is a huge difference between a 14 year old having sex with another 14 year old and a 14 year old having sex with a 29 year old.
I don't know where to draw the line, but there should be SOME point that separates natural curiosity/drive/or whatever you want to call it and exploitation.

What difference exactly are you talking about? Why would it automatically be exploitation by the 29 yr old?

The motivation seems the same to me. 14 yr olds have sex because they are horny. So do 29 yr olds. I don't see how malice is a likely motivation for either.
 
What difference exactly are you talking about? Why would it automatically be exploitation by the 29 yr old?

The motivation seems the same to me. 14 yr olds have sex because they are horny. So do 29 yr olds. I don't see how malice is a likely motivation for either.

You'd be the Body I'd have to dispose of,,,if you went after a 14 year old. Girl/boy...:smash:
 
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Meh, that's not a huge deal IMO. 14 is the norm in most of Europe and Latin America. 16 is the norm in the Anglosphere.

Depends where you go in the Anglosphere. Jerry Lee Lewis was famous for marrying his cousin, who was only 13 years old.
 
Depends where you go in the Anglosphere. Jerry Lee Lewis was famous for marrying his cousin, who was only 13 years old.

"Angloshere"? :lol: Diarrhea,,,your'e a loose Bowel Movement.:lol: And a Racist.:)
 
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14 IMO is pushing it. I think maybe we should be careful in how stringent we make the system. If say some 15 year old has sex with his 14 year old girlfriend, I mean that's a situation. If it's a 30 year old with a 14 year old, that's an entirely different set of circumstances. So while I think the laws need to be malleable enough to not catch kids up in it, there has to be at some point a clear line. 14 is too young IMO. I think 16 is probably as young as you can take it.
 
Ya but that was like 50 years ago.

In many southern states, the laws haven't changed.
In my state, for instance, applicants between the ages of 14 and 17 may obtain a marriage license if they have written parental consent signed in front of the county clerk or if a district court judge has authorized the marriage.
 
If they are to reduce the age to 14, they should stipulate WHO the 14 year olds are having sex with. There is a huge difference between a 14 year old having sex with another 14 year old and a 14 year old having sex with a 29 year old.

There are already such mechanisms in place in the way of close-in-age exemptions. This is speaking of a maximum age of consent at which a person can engage in sexual interactions with anyone of any other age. For example, the age of consent in the majority of U.S. states is 16 and was 14 in Canada until last year.
 
So do they plan on changing the Law for how old you can be to be charged as an Adult for Crimes,buy and consume alcohol,get a driver's licence,be drafted into the Military, when you can leave school,voting age.

This law is about sex only, that doesn't change the other laws. You can drink alcohol at 16, school is compulsory until 18, and there is no military draft (I think the minimum age if you want to join it is 18)

Or is this just a way for that Scum Roman Polanski to get off with rape of a child.

The kid was 13 I think

PS: This is a Blog :2wave:

Can't you make the difference between a blog and a newspaper?
 
If they are to reduce the age to 14, they should stipulate WHO the 14 year olds are having sex with. There is a huge difference between a 14 year old having sex with another 14 year old and a 14 year old having sex with a 29 year old.

I don't know where to draw the line, but there should be SOME point that separates natural curiosity/drive/or whatever you want to call it and exploitation.

I haven't read the law yet, but they said they would make such differences. For example an educator/tutor will not be allowed to have sex with teens aged under 18
 
This law is about sex only, that doesn't change the other laws. You can drink alcohol at 16, school is compulsory until 18, and there is no military draft (I think the minimum age if you want to join it is 18)


Wow, very different from the US: compulsory school until 16, no alcohol until 21, minimum age to join the military 17.
It's a slight difference, but it shows where our priorities differ.

I've long stated that I think the drinking age should be lowered, the driving age raised.
 
I hear NAMBLA has their lobbying contingent in DC to get this lowered.
 
In Denmark it is pretty simple.

Age 15 is age of consent. Legally if someone has sex with someone under 15 then they can be prosecuted. However there is a considerable leeway so to say. For example, a 15 year old having consensual sex with a 14 year old girl/boy friend usually wont cause any problems. Basically if the sex is consensual and the age difference aint insane then there usually no issues.

Also at 15 you are some what legally responsible for yourself depending on the situation but usually with parental consent or involvement. You can for example get a bank account credit card at 15 with parental consent.

Age of 16 you can legally buy alcohol in stores. There is no legal limit on drinking.

Age of 18 you become an adult. You can legally buy alcohol in bars, you can vote and you can get a drivings license and marry. Also as a male you are called up for the military service lotto.
 
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