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    Congressional leaders fight against posting bills online

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    By: Susan Ferrechio
    Chief Congressional Correspondent
    October 6, 2009


    As Congress lurches closer to a decision on an enormous overhaul of the American health care system, pressure is mounting on legislative leaders to make the final bill available online for citizens to read before a vote.
    Lawmakers were given just hours to examine the $789 billion stimulus plan, sweeping climate-change legislation and a $700 billion bailout package before final votes.
    While most Americans normally ignore parliamentary detail, with health care looming, voters are suddenly paying attention. The Senate is expected to vote on a health bill in the weeks to come, representing months of work and stretching to hundreds of pages. And as of now, there is no assurance that members of the public, or even the senators themselves, will be given the chance to read the legislation before a vote.
    "The American people are now suspicious of not only the lawmakers, but the process they hide behind to do their work," said Michael Franc, president of government relations for the Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank.
    At town hall meetings across the country this past summer, the main topic was health care, but there was a strong undercurrent of anger over the way Congress rushed through passage of the stimulus, global warming and bank bailout bills without seeming to understand the consequences. The stimulus bill, for example, was 1,100 pages long and made available to Congress and the public just 13 hours before lawmakers voted on it. The bill has failed to provide the promised help to the job market, and there was outrage when it was discovered that the legislation included an amendment allowing American International Group, a bailout recipient, to give out millions in employee bonuses.
    Hmmm, now why wouldn't Congress want this bill online?
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    Re: Congressional leaders fight against posting bills online

    Of course they do!!...
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Congressional leaders fight against posting bills online

    Luckily support for H.R. 554 is gaining support on both sides of the isle.

    H.Res.554: Amending the Rules of the House of Representatives to require that legislation and conference reports... OpenCongress


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    Re: Congressional leaders fight against posting bills online

    Except in the case of true emergency legislation (which a health reform bill is NOT), why wouldn't anyone be in favor of this?
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    Re: Congressional leaders fight against posting bills online

    I thought at least one lib would show up and explain this idea of not wanting the bill online.
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    Re: Congressional leaders fight against posting bills online

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I thought at least one lib would show up and explain this idea of not wanting the bill online.
    Maybe posting bills online is an issue that both sides support.
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    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I thought at least one lib would show up and explain this idea of not wanting the bill online.
    LOL...
    They're waiting for marching orders.

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    Re: Congressional leaders fight against posting bills online

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Luckily support for H.R. 554 is gaining support on both sides of the isle.
    72 hours is not enough time imo. I personally think that it should be a week long wait. With the exception of emergency bills of course....TRUE emergency bills.
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    Re: Congressional leaders fight against posting bills online

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    72 hours is not enough time imo. I personally think that it should be a week long wait.
    I think three days should be a minimum with a day added per 50-100 pages.A thousand pages 10-20 days posted online before voting.




    With the exception of emergency bills of course....TRUE emergency bills
    What do you define as a true emergency bills?
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    Re: Congressional leaders fight against posting bills online

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    Hmmm, now why wouldn't Congress want this bill online?
    They are against it because it would allow a means by which the American public could view the bill and find all of the pork hidden in it.

    Congress doesn't want its pork exposed.

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