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US funds dry up for Iran rights watchdog

Irrelevant, they are committing acts of war against U.S. troops in Iraq and Afghanistan by arming the Sadr Army and Taliban respectively.

Very relevant! If they are not doing anything inside the US borders, then questions might be raised as to what the US is doing invading other countries?
 
Georgia can demand whatever it wants on its own territory.

At the time of the Russian invasion not even the Russian Federation recognized S. Ossetian independence.


Where is your "international community" with regard to the US war in Afghanistan

The U.N. Charter grants a nation-state the right of self defense when attacked.

and Iraq?

U.N.S.C.R 678 granted member nations "all necessary means" to enforce resolution 660 and "all subsequent resolutions", and Iraq violated nearly every single subsequent resolution.
 
Yeltsyn was the US pet, let him burn in hell.

As for Transdnistra, do you know that not only they have Russian money and Russian flag, and Russian passports, they are waiting with anticipation to become part of Russian Federation, especially if Romania will get its way and will annex what is now called Moldova.

So if the U.S gave the iranians american passports than intervention would be ok? or is it just about geography?
 
Very relevant! If they are not doing anything inside the US borders, then questions might be raised as to what the US is doing invading other countries?

Is Iran one of those countries? No. Are U.S. troops in Iraq and Afghanistan currently there with the permission of the internationally recognized sovereign governments of Iraq and Afghanistan? Yes.
 
So Russia now invaded S.Ossetia? What else?

S. Ossetia was recognized as Georgian territory at the time.

After the fall of the Soviet Union Russia was LEGALY obliged to grant its citizenship to ANYONE who was born in the USSR and members of their families.

So what? It was legally obliged because they said they were legally obliged. The U.S. could pass a law making it legally obligatory to grant citizenship to the Kurds as well.

So why the US doesn't grant its citizenship to Kurds?

It's called a hypothetical question. By your logic IF the U.S. granted citizenship to the Kurdish then the U.S. would have a right to invade Iran for failing to recognize Kurdish independence and sending in troops to prevent their secession.
 
1. We were in Lebanon for a peacekeeping mission.

2. We are in Iraq because Saddam committed numerous acts of war against the U.S..



3. The Taliban didn't exist during the Afghan-Soviet war.

1. ... and the STATE of Iran attacked you? And when was that? How fare down the road of history would you like to go to justify the US meddling in other country's internal business?

2. No. You are in Iraq because your country's power elites NEEDED to get in controll of Europe's suply of energy resources (and make few bob in a process).

3. Yes, you are right, THE NAME didn't exist, but the people were there.
 
At the time of the Russian invasion not even the Russian Federation recognized S. Ossetian independence.




The U.N. Charter grants a nation-state the right of self defense when attacked.



U.N.S.C.R 678 granted member nations "all necessary means" to enforce resolution 660 and "all subsequent resolutions", and Iraq violated nearly every single subsequent resolution.

1. We will disregard "invasion".

Yet 85 to 90% of the population of S.Ossetia were RUSSIAN CITIZENS.

2. That's what S.Ossetia did, and Russia defended its citizens as well as peacekeepers.

3. Really? How many points of UN charters and international laws did Israel violate? Why the US didn't invade it yet?
 
So if the U.S gave the iranians american passports than intervention would be ok? ?

Did the US do it? Then what are we talking about?
 
Is Iran one of those countries? No.

Are U.S. troops in Iraq and Afghanistan currently there with the permission of the internationally recognized sovereign governments of Iraq and Afghanistan? Yes.

And????

Do you mean PUPPET governments that are not recognised by the people of the countries in question?

WHAT THE US IS DOING INVADING SOVEREIGN COUNTRIES AROUND THE GLOBE?!
 
1. We will disregard "invasion".

Yet 85 to 90% of the population of S.Ossetia were RUSSIAN CITIZENS.

So if we grant citizenship to Kurds we can invade Iran for failing to recognize Kurdish independence if they attempted to secede and Iran tried to retain the territory by force?

2. That's what S.Ossetia did, and Russia defended its citizens as well as peacekeepers.

Um no, at the time not even the Russian Federation recognized Georgian independence, S. Ossetia was GEORGIAN territory.

3. Really? How many points of UN charters and international laws did Israel violate? Why the US didn't invade it yet?

Name a UNSC Resolution in which Israel is in violation of and its Arab counterparts are not. Show me one UNSC resolution against Israel granting members states all necessary means to enforce it.
 
And????

Do you mean PUPPET governments that are not recognised by the people of the countries in question?

The UN verified the Iraqi elections as free and fair. The original Afghani election was verified as free and fair but to my understanding the last Afghani elections are in dispute.

WHAT THE US IS DOING INVADING SOVEREIGN COUNTRIES AROUND THE GLOBE?!

Iraq was not a sovereign country it was a ward of the international community. As for Afghanistan again the U.N. Charter grants member states the right to self defense.
 
1. S. Ossetia was recognized as Georgian territory at the time.



2. So what? It was legally obliged because they said they were legally obliged.

The U.S. could pass a law making it legally obligatory to grant citizenship to the Kurds as well.



3. It's called a hypothetical question.

IF the U.S. granted citizenship to the Kurdish then the U.S. would have

1. Not by S.Ossetians.

2. So nothing. They became citizens of Russian Federation out of their own accord and in accordence with the law. If you have problem with that, its your own problem.

It could. Why don't it?

3. Then don't bring up hypothetical situations. If my aunt had a d*ck she would've been my uncle.
 
1. ... and the STATE of Iran attacked you?

Yes Hezbollah was a creation of the Iranian government. Hezbollah is still a proxy of the Iranian Quds forces. Hezbollah bombed the U.S. Marine Barracks in Lebanon.

And when was that? How fare down the road of history would you like to go to justify the US meddling in other country's internal business?

Iran is currently responsible for the deaths of U.S. soldiers due to Iranian made Explosively Formed Projectiles or EFP's for short.

2. No. You are in Iraq because your country's power elites NEEDED to get in controll of Europe's suply of energy resources (and make few bob in a process).

Um if it was about our oil concerns then we could have just accepted Saddam's PSA offer prior to OIF.

3. Yes, you are right, THE NAME didn't exist, but the people were there.

And most of the people that the U.S. supported went onto form the Taliban's principle rivals in the Northern Alliance; such as, Ahmad Shah Masoud aka the Lion of Panjshir.
 
The UN verified the Iraqi elections as free and fair. The original Afghani election was verified as free and fair but to my understanding the last Afghani elections are in dispute.



Iraq was not a sovereign country it was a ward of the international community.

As for Afghanistan again the U.N. Charter grants member states the right to self defense.

Your "international community" verified the third tour of Ukrainian elections as free and fair, yet they were AGAINST the Ukrainian constitution!


In whose hallucinations Republic of Iraq was not a sovereign country? Besides, don't forget Saddam was also installed by the US.

And Afghanistan is defending itself against the US led invasion. Thank you for confirming it has a right to.
 
Yes Hezbollah was a creation of the Iranian government. Hezbollah is still a proxy of the Iranian Quds forces. Hezbollah bombed the U.S. Marine Barracks in Lebanon.



Iran is currently responsible for the deaths of U.S. soldiers due to Iranian made Explosively Formed Projectiles or EFP's for short.



Um if it was about our oil concerns then we could have just accepted Saddam's PSA offer prior to OIF.



And most of the people that the U.S. supported went onto form the Taliban's principle rivals in the Northern Alliance; such as, Ahmad Shah Masoud aka the Lion of Panjshir.


Deal with Hezbollah. The US supports plenty of rough regimes and thugs, why are you getting uppity when other states do the same?

The US should not be invading the countries around the world.

Are you reading what I post? What does it have to do with YOUR oil concerns?

And its THEIR business, not that of the US.
 
1. Not by S.Ossetians.

And Kurds don't recognize Kurdistan as Iranian territory either.

2. So nothing. They became citizens of Russian Federation out of their own accord and in accordence with the law. If you have problem with that, its your own problem.

Again if the U.S. grants Citizenship to Kurds and the Kurds accept this offer the U.S. can go to war with Iran if Kurdistan secedes and Iranians try to keep the territory by force?

It could. Why don't it?

3. Then don't bring up hypothetical situations. If my aunt had a d*ck she would've been my uncle.

:roll: It's called a thought experiment and you can't answer the question because you are a hypocrite. If you wouldn't support a U.S. invasion of Iran given the aforementioned hypothetical situation then you can't support the Russian invasion of Georgia.
 
It should be noted that under international law a state is generally considered to be sovereign if it has the authority to exercise jurisdiction over its people--those within its boundaries. That Iraq was subject to numerous Security Council resolutions did not mean that it was not a sovereign state.
 
Deal with Hezbollah. The US supports plenty of rough regimes and thugs, why are you getting uppity when other states do the same?

Hezbollah is a proxy of the Iranian government, they were created by, are funded, armed, and trained by, and receive their marching orders from Tehran.

The US should not be invading the countries around the world.

A nation state has the right of self defense. Iraq was not a sovereign country it was a ward of the international community. In response to numerous violation of U.N.S.C. resolution 678 the use used the authorization it was granted to use all necessary means to enforce all resolutions subsequent to U.N.S.C. resolution 660.

Are you reading what I post? What does it have to do with YOUR oil concerns?

Then what the hell did you mean by "You are in Iraq because your country's power elites NEEDED to get in controll of Europe's suply of energy resources"

And its THEIR business, not that of the US.

How is this even a response to what I posted. You asserted that we supported the Taliban in the Afghan-Soviet war, I then pwned you by saying that the Taliban didn't exist in the Afghan-Soviet war, then you said that the people were still there, to which I replied that the majority of people who the U.S. supported went on to form the Northern Alliance, and now you say that it's their business. What is their business exactly?
 
And Kurds don't recognize Kurdistan as Iranian territory either.



Again if the U.S. grants Citizenship to Kurds and the Kurds accept this offer the U.S. can go to war with Iran if Kurdistan secedes and Iranians try to keep the territory by force?

:roll: It's called a thought experiment and you can't answer the question because you are a hypocrite.

And it's between them and Iran. Btw, Turkey opresses the Kurds. Is the US going to invade Turkey?

Are these your words: "It's called a hypothetical question"?
Why are you bringing into a conversation about the realities a hypothetical situation? Did the US grant Kurds US citizenship? Yes or no?

"If green aliens will come and abduct me, can I claim compensation for violations?"

"If a big crocodile will swim up the drain pipe and bite my arrse off, can I sue the zoo?"

"If Elvis will come back, can I be his buddy?"

Do you have anything from the realm of reality to add?
 
Your "international community" verified the third tour of Ukrainian elections as free and fair, yet they were AGAINST the Ukrainian constitution!

Um wth does that even mean? The UN recognizes governments not Constitutions.

In whose hallucinations Republic of Iraq was not a sovereign country?

Iraq was not a sovereign country after it invaded Kuwait it became a ward of the international community and the Baathists were only allowed to continue ruling if they abided by the rules set forth by the international community through the form of UNSC resolutions, they violated nearly all of them.

Besides, don't forget Saddam was also installed by the US.

Um no he wasn't in fact he didn't even lead the coup that put the Baathists into power.

And Afghanistan is defending itself against the US led invasion. Thank you for confirming it has a right to.

Um they attacked us first.
 
Hezbollah is a proxy of the Iranian government,

Iraq was not a sovereign country it

Then what the hell did you mean by "You are in Iraq because your country's power elites NEEDED to get in controll of Europe's suply of energy resources"



How is this even a response to what I posted. You asserted that we supported the Taliban in the Afghan-Soviet war, I then pwned you by saying that the Taliban didn't exist in the Afghan-Soviet war, then you said that the people were still there, to which I replied that the majority of people who the U.S. supported went on to form the Northern Alliance, and now you say that it's their business. What is their business exactly?

And Saakashvili is a proxy of the US government, he even gets his wages from the US! So?

It was.

Which part of "to get in controll of Europe's suply of energy resources" do you have problems with?

Because the words and names are just that -- the names and the words. The people whom the US were training and arming are the same. The US supported Taliban into power in Afghanistan, simple as that.
 
And it's between them and Iran. Btw, Turkey opresses the Kurds. Is the US going to invade Turkey?

Same thing would you support a U.S. invasion of Turkey given the aforementioned hypothetical situation?

Are these your words: "It's called a hypothetical question"?
Why are you bringing into a conversation about the realities a hypothetical situation? Did the US grant Kurds US citizenship? Yes or no?

"If green aliens will come and abduct me, can I claim compensation for violations?"

"If a big crocodile will swim up the drain pipe and bite my arrse off, can I sue the zoo?"

"If Elvis will come back, can I be his buddy?"

Do you have anything from the realm of reality to add?

"A thought experiment, sometimes called a gedankenexperiment in English, is a proposal for an experiment that would test or illuminate a hypothesis or theory."


[ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thought_experiment]Thought experiment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]


My theory is that you are a hypocrite which can be proven if you answer a simple yes or no question. You refuse to answer this question.
 
Um wth does that even mean? The UN recognizes governments not Constitutions.



Iraq was not a sovereign country



Um no he wasn't in fact he didn't even lead the coup that put the Baathists into power.



Um they attacked us first.

Even those that come to power unlawfully as a result of a coup? Too bad for the UN and "international community" that time and again shows its true ugly face...

It was.

Yes, the CIA led the coup.

In what way, shape or form?
 
And Saakashvili is a proxy of the US government, he even gets his wages from the US! So?

Huh? I'm aware that he was payed $1,500 a month by the United Nations Development Program.


No it was a ward of the international community following its illegal annexation of Kuwait.

Which part of "to get in controll of Europe's suply of energy resources" do you have problems with?

How does invading Iraq help us to get control of European energy resources?

Because the words and names are just that -- the names and the words. The people whom the US were training and arming are the same. The US supported Taliban into power in Afghanistan, simple as that.

No actually it didn't, the Taliban didn't exist at the time and most of the people who the U.S. supported went onto form the Taliban's principle rival IE the Northern Alliance.
 
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