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US funds dry up for Iran rights watchdog

Elena said:
What? You don't like when someone points out at the problems with your elections? Well...
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What problems?? It was simply a close vote in Florida, nothing more and nothing less.
 
Gill said:
What problems?? It was simply a close vote in Florida, nothing more and nothing less.
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That's not what some say...

And in any case, don't you see how your collective psychology works? When it's disputed election in a country that is not under the US heel, -- its a humanitarian disaster that needs urgent monitoring and "liberating" expedition! When it's disputed ellection in the US or a country firmly under the US control, -- its nothing, hiccups of democracy at the most.

;)
 
Elena said:
That's not what some say...

And in any case, don't you see how your collective psychology works? When it's disputed election in a country that is not under the US heel, -- its a humanitarian disaster that needs urgent monitoring and "liberating" expedition! When it's disputed ellection in the US or a country firmly under the US control, -- its nothing, hiccups of democracy at the most.

;)
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Some say there are martians flying around the Earth. Some say Bush personally bombed the WTC towers. Some say we didn't land on the moon.

What's your point? That there are looney conspiracy theories and people that lap it up? We already knew that. You are living proof.

The US election wasn't disputed. We simply recounted the votes to be sure that the correct and actual winner was named. Case closed.

I don't recall seeing jackbooted thugs shooting innocent women and bashing in people's heads in Miami or Orlando as we saw in Tehran. Did you??
 
Gill said:
Some say there are martians flying around the Earth. Some say Bush personally bombed the WTC towers. Some say we didn't land on the moon.

What's your point?

The US election wasn't disputed. We simply recounted the votes to be sure that the correct and actual winner was named. Case closed.

I don't recall seeing jackbooted thugs shooting innocent women and bashing in people's heads in Miami or Orlando as we saw in Tehran. Did you??
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What is my point? Precisely that: some say people in Iran are oppressed and their elections were rigged beyond what is considered usual for other "democratic" countries, and that Iran needs to be monitored by the likes of the US. Looney theory and the people that lap it up!

And I do agree with you, it's not important who votes and how, what is important is who counts the vote and how. Frankly, I don't give a rat's backside about your elections, at the end of the day your country is ran by unelected clans and not by the senate or president.

"jackbooted thugs shooting innocent women"?
I don't recall it either. On the other hand I don't recall an all pervasive culture of vicious street gangs in Tehran as we see in America...

Maybe your country could do with some monitoring for a change?
 
Elena said:
"jackbooted thugs shooting innocent women"?
I don't recall it either. On the other hand I don't recall an all pervasive culture of vicious street gangs in Tehran as we see in America...
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I guess you never heard of Neda??

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Wait, let me guess. This was photo shopped by the evil USA to make the benevolent Iran look bad. :roll:
 
Gill said:
I guess you never heard of Neda??

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Wait, let me guess. This was photo shopped by the evil USA to make the benevolent Iran look bad. :roll:
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Have you ever heard about the events that unfolded within this picture?

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PeteEU said:
How on earth can the Logan act stop Congress funding such an organisation? Congress funds freaking Israel via earmarks!! So it is a no no to fund an organisation that is against the sitting Iranian government, but it is no problem to give billions to Israel..

Do you even know the Logan act? Is Congress not the ultimate authority of the USA?
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Uh, no, they're not. We have three branches that all have equal powers. Foreign policy negotiations don't fall under the Legislative Branch.

I find it hillarious how Europeans want to constantly bash the United States, yet don't have a clue how our government works.

So it is a no no to fund an organisation that is against the sitting Iranian government, but it is no problem to give billions to Israel..
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That's exactly right. Think about what you just said.
 
Elena said:
And why exactly should the US be peeping and interfering with the life in Iran? Have you sorted out all your domestic social problems and inadequacies? Why do you assume you have the right to meddle in other countries business?!
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Because other countries are also composed of human beings, and when a human being suffers elsewhere, we should ALL be concerned.
 
Catz Part Deux said:
Because other countries are also composed of human beings, and when a human being suffers elsewhere, we should ALL be concerned.
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Sure but do we show a similar level of concern when our allies are doing similar things to what the Iranian government is doing. I assume you remember general pinochet, galtieri, suharto etc better than i do. Were you equally concerned at the time as you are now?
 
apdst said:
The dude probably had it coming. Don't break the law and you don't get beat up. It ain't rocket science.
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From 6 -- 7 policemen that suppose to uphold the law?

I'm not saying he was an innocent pet, but if you take a stance of a monitor of the legality of actions of other nations, shouldn't you be squeaky clean yourselves first?
 
Catz Part Deux said:
Because other countries are also composed of human beings, and when a human being suffers elsewhere, we should ALL be concerned.
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Be concerned, by all means... Make a donation, go there and build a school, or a hospital...

But there is a world of difference between your private concern and sponsored by the US government monitoring of other nation's home affairs.
 
apdst said:
Just another example whose side PBO is really on. Either that, or he's a weak-kneed nutless coward.Typical conservative response.
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PBO ?
We are beating a dead horse to death.

If the whole world by now does no know that the criminally insane Islamics are evil personified, they will never know.
The Iranian people must rebel, if they truly want better government. I do not think they do.
This is a "give me liberty or give me death" situation, as I see it. Things are not that bad in Iran...I think they were worse in Iraq
 
Elena said:
Be concerned, by all means... Make a donation, go there and build a school, or a hospital...

But there is a world of difference between your private concern and sponsored by the US government monitoring of other nation's home affairs.So you do not think we should be doing this ?
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Yeah, we can build hospitals, schools, and the criminally insane Islamics will blow them up.
 
Red_Dave said:
Sure but do we show a similar level of concern when our allies are doing similar things to what the Iranian government is doing. I assume you remember general pinochet, galtieri, suharto etc better than i do. Were you equally concerned at the time as you are now?
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Damned good point !
And Idi Amin, and others scum..
Any and all who trample on human rights should never have been our "allies".
 
Elena said:
Be concerned, by all means... Make a donation, go there and build a school, or a hospital...

But there is a world of difference between your private concern and sponsored by the US government monitoring of other nation's home affairs.
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So is that to say that Russian citizens should have made donations to South Ossetians rather than supporting their governments military intervention?
 
Elena said:
That's not what some say...

And in any case, don't you see how your collective psychology works? When it's disputed election in a country that is not under the US heel, -- its a humanitarian disaster that needs urgent monitoring and "liberating" expedition! When it's disputed ellection in the US or a country firmly under the US control, -- its nothing, hiccups of democracy at the most.

;)
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lmfao Democrats protesting the 2000 elections weren't murdered in the ****ing street and rounded up and thrown in jail. Epic fail.
 
earthworm said:
Yeah, we can build hospitals, schools, and the criminally insane Islamics will blow them up.
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Then don't build. Be quietly concerned.
 
Elena said:
What is my point? Precisely that: some say people in Iran are oppressed and their elections were rigged beyond what is considered usual for other "democratic" countries, and that Iran needs to be monitored by the likes of the US. Looney theory and the people that lap it up!
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Well the elections in Iran didn't really matter in the first place because there is a closed circle of power in which the Supreme Leader rules, well Supreme. Iran is not a democracy it is a theocratic dictatorship.

And I do agree with you, it's not important who votes and how, what is important is who counts the vote and how. Frankly, I don't give a rat's backside about your elections, at the end of the day your country is ran by unelected clans and not by the senate or president.
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Um no we have what is known as a pluralist society, in a pluralist society there are what are known as special interests many of which in competition with one another which give citizens a direct ear to the government.

"jackbooted thugs shooting innocent women"?
I don't recall it either. On the other hand I don't recall an all pervasive culture of vicious street gangs in Tehran as we see in America...

Maybe your country could do with some monitoring for a change?
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Sorry sport we all saw the shootings on youtube. We all know that protesters from the Iranian elections are still missing, either dead or imprisoned.
 
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