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    Re: US funds dry up for Iran rights watchdog

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    So is that to say that Russian citizens should have made donations to South Ossetians rather than supporting their governments military intervention?
    Its only 7 pages

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...eu-report.html

    "On June 24 1992, a quadripartite Russian-Georgian-Ossetian (North and South Ossetia) Sochi agreement was signed putting an end to Georgian-Abkhasian and Georgian-Ossetian wars. On July 14 1992 mixed Russian-Georgian-Ossetian peacekeeping force entered South Ossetia."

    If Georgia opted to attack and kill Russian citizens of S.Ossetia as well as Russian peacekeeping force, what reaction did you expect from Russia?

    And what that have to do with the US monitoring of other nations internal affairs? Is Russia funding the monitoring of Georgian elections? Speaking of which, how in God's name Georgia managed to get onto US list of "democracies"?!

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    Re: US funds dry up for Iran rights watchdog

    Quote Originally Posted by Elena View Post
    1. And the US leadership doesn't?
    Such as?

    2. and the US leadership doesn't crack down on it's own population with opressive laws,
    Such as?

    domestic policies that breed poverty
    Such as?

    and torture of foreigners in the name of US interests?
    Coercive interrogation of known unlawful combatants is not the same thing as torturing political dissidents.

    3. remind me please that story with "stolen" Bush elections?
    lol Bush won Florida and it has since been proven conclusively Furthermore; it took the SCOTUS IIRC months to deliberate on the issue, the Iranian theocrats declared Ahmadinejad the winner in a day.

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    Re: US funds dry up for Iran rights watchdog

    Quote Originally Posted by Elena View Post
    Its only 7 pages

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...eu-report.html

    "On June 24 1992, a quadripartite Russian-Georgian-Ossetian (North and South Ossetia) Sochi agreement was signed putting an end to Georgian-Abkhasian and Georgian-Ossetian wars. On July 14 1992 mixed Russian-Georgian-Ossetian peacekeeping force entered South Ossetia."

    If Georgia opted to attack and kill Russian citizens of S.Ossetia as well as Russian peacekeeping force, what reaction did you expect from Russia?

    And what that have to do with the US monitoring of other nations internal affairs? Is Russia funding the monitoring of Georgian elections? Speaking of which, how in God's name Georgia managed to get onto US list of "democracies"?!
    Yes i read that and for the record i was more sympathetic towards South Ossetia than i was to Georgia. My point was that if Russia has a right to intervene in other countrys on, what to an extent, could be called a humanitarian basis than why cant the U.S?

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    Re: US funds dry up for Iran rights watchdog

    Quote Originally Posted by Elena View Post
    Its only 7 pages

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...eu-report.html

    "On June 24 1992, a quadripartite Russian-Georgian-Ossetian (North and South Ossetia) Sochi agreement was signed putting an end to Georgian-Abkhasian and Georgian-Ossetian wars. On July 14 1992 mixed Russian-Georgian-Ossetian peacekeeping force entered South Ossetia."

    If Georgia opted to attack and kill Russian citizens of S.Ossetia as well as Russian peacekeeping force, what reaction did you expect from Russia?

    And what that have to do with the US monitoring of other nations internal affairs? Is Russia funding the monitoring of Georgian elections? Speaking of which, how in God's name Georgia managed to get onto US list of "democracies"?!
    Georgia demanded the replacement of the non-neutral occupation force. S. Ossetia was recognized by the international community as Georgian territory. The U.N. did not recognize S. Ossetian independence. Those Occupation forces on Georgian territory without Georgian permission was in itself an act of war. Does the U.S. have a right to go to war with Iran because they won't recognize Kurdish independence? If you support Russian actions in Georgia then you must say yes or be labeled a hypocrite.

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    Re: US funds dry up for Iran rights watchdog

    Quote Originally Posted by Elena View Post
    1. And the US leadership doesn't? no

    2. and the US leadership doesn't crack down on it's own population with opressive laws, domestic policies that breed poverty and torture of foreigners in the name of US interests? We would not know how to do these things

    3. remind me please that story with "stolen" Bush elections? Bush never "stole an election".

    Isn't it time the US power elites stopped holding US people for stoopid? If they are really concerned for the welfare of human species, why don't they start with their own country -- the US? This was done over 200 years ago.
    No nation on this planet is perfect, or even close.
    Our nation bends over backward to be "perfect"; But I take exception your your half truths and outright lies, Elena.
    I detect envy and jealousy.

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    Re: US funds dry up for Iran rights watchdog

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post

    Well the elections in Iran didn't really matter in the first place because there is a closed circle of power in which the Supreme Leader rules, well Supreme. ... We all know that protesters from the Iranian elections are still missing, either dead or imprisoned.
    And what business is it of the United States?

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    Iran is not a democracy
    Neither is the US.

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post

    Um no we have what is known as a pluralist society, in a pluralist society there are what are known as special interests many of which in competition with one another which give citizens a direct ear to the government.
    And the government happens to suffer from a condition known as Glue ear -- the cause of partial deafness.

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    Re: US funds dry up for Iran rights watchdog

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    My point was that if Russia has a right to intervene in other countrys on, what to an extent, could be called a humanitarian basis than why cant the U.S?
    Were Iranians the American citizens who were attacked by a third party in their own country with the US peacekeepers there also under attack?

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    Re: US funds dry up for Iran rights watchdog

    Quote Originally Posted by Elena View Post
    Were Iranians the American citizens who were attacked by a third party in their own country with the US peacekeepers there also under attack?
    So if it wasnt for the presence of russian peacekeepers prior to the intervention the intervention would have been unjustified?

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    Re: US funds dry up for Iran rights watchdog

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Georgia demanded the replacement of the non-neutral occupation force.
    1. Georgia was part of that force.

    2. Georgia can demand what it wants within its own borders. The fact it does not agree with S.Ossetian independence is not S.Ossetian headache.

    3. If you want to continue talking about Georgian war, there is a dedicated thread for it.

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    Re: US funds dry up for Iran rights watchdog

    Quote Originally Posted by Elena View Post
    And what business is it of the United States?
    It's America's business because the current Iranian regime has perpetrated numerous acts of war against the U.S. starting with the Lebanese bombings, the hostage crisis, to arming the Taliban in Afghanistan and Sadre Army in Iraq.


    Neither is the US.
    Yes it is, it is a Republic which utilizes representative democracy.

    And the government happens to suffer from a condition known as Glue ear -- the cause of partial deafness.
    Funny that you just made the argument that these special interests and not the elected representatives which run the country. So which is it? Make up your mind.

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