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Anger as Iran holds up IAEA inspectors’ visit

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Prevarication - prevarication - prevarication.

This is the way that Iran will always deal with subjects it does not wish to discuss on an International level.

What is becoming increasingly apparent is that once again with regards to the US administration, these tactics will work.
 
jujuman13 said:
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FT.com / Iran - Anger as Iran holds up IAEA inspectors? visit

Prevarication - prevarication - prevarication.

This is the way that Iran will always deal with subjects it does not wish to discuss on an International level.

What is becoming increasingly apparent is that once again with regards to the US administration, these tactics will work.
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What is your suggestion? Invasion and occupation? Choices involving Iran are limited. Really our only hope is that Iran misses something in in their cover up that an inspector catches. The goal is to catch Iran in a lie and then, with international support, strong arm them. The support is key though and we won't get it with just suspicions.

In any case this is farther then the isolationist policies of the last administration got us.
 
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Gibberish said:
What is your suggestion? Invasion and occupation? Choices involving Iran are limited. Really our only hope is that Iran misses something in in their cover up that an inspector catches. The goal is to catch Iran in a lie and then, with international support, strong arm them. The support is key though and we won't get it with just suspicions.

In any case this is farther then the isolationist policies of the last administration got us.
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So we catch them in a lie? Then what?
 
apdst said:
So we catch them in a lie? Then what?
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The hope is we get international support to shut them down. Iran is less likely to become aggressive if 4-5 of the strongest nations in the world are all in agreement. As it is though, they are not due to the speculative nature of the situation.

What do you suggest happens?
 
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apdst said:
So we catch them in a lie? Then what?
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Then "we" will whip up media hysteria with WMD ready in 45 minutes claim; and then "we" will free the Iranian people from ... errrr.... who cares for as long as "we" will get "our" hands on the gas that is suppose to fill NABUCCO thus controlling EVERY European energy source outside of Russia.

Perfect!

PS
If I were Iranian president I would work day and night to make a nuclear weapon that may safeguard my country from the fate of Afghanistan and Iraq.
 
Gibberish said:
The hope is we get international support to shut them down. Iran is less likely to become aggressive if 4-5 of the strongest nations in the world are all in agreement.
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That assumes that those 4-5 nations don't have conflicting interests.
 
Harshaw said:
That assumes that those 4-5 nations don't have conflicting interests.
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If it is proven true that Iran has military ambitions for the nuclear technology and countries hesitate to respond their true intentions will be publicly exposed. It will end this irritating shaded truth talk that has been occurring.
 
Maybe, but it won't change the conflicting interests.
 
Gibberish said:
The hope is we get international support to shut them down. Iran is less likely to become aggressive if 4-5 of the strongest nations in the world are all in agreement. As it is though, they are not due to the speculative nature of the situation.
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The international support isn't there to sanction Iran, what makes you think that there will be international support to, shut them down?

What do you suggest happens?
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I say we give the Israelis the green light.
 
Although Iran set the date for inspections beyond what some of the P5+1 states had wanted, at least a date-certain has been established. Satellites can monitor activities to determine whether anything suspicious happens in the vicinity of the facility prior to the IAEA's inspections. All said, the date itself is not a deal-breaker so to speak.

However, a larger issue that is underscored by the delay and even more by past Iranian issues with the IAEA is the need for a robust verification regime. No agreement would be complete without a rigorous verification mechanism.

At the same time, even if sanctions are not discussed in the public, it would be prudent for the P5+1 to develop a stringent sanctions package as a contingency should Iran's cooperation prove less than forthcoming. Even if such sanctions won't be needed, it is better to be prepared than caught by surprise.
 
Hmm here is a better idea just send the Iran this video and tell them they have two choice stop building the Nuke Stuff or this is going ot happen to you.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJ7niLYSVFo&feature=related"]YouTube - B-52 MITO departure, Minot AFB, ND[/ame]

Now for those who don't know what this is this took place on June 9 2009. It's called a MITO/DEFON 1 Alert takeoff. What you see id 15 B-52G on a fast alert scramble take off please note it took under 10 minutes to launch them and have them on their merry way towards the over sea's targets.
 
apdst said:
The international support isn't there to sanction Iran, what makes you think that there will be international support to, shut them down?
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Because countries aren't willing to sanction based on speculation of aggressive behavior.

apdst said:
I say we give the Israelis the green light.
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Ya I am sure that scenario will turn out great.
 
Gibberish said:
Ya I am sure that scenario will turn out great.
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Actually it would considering that the following Middle East Countries have stated that they will not stop Israel from flying over there Countries.

Saudi Arabia,Jordon,Oman,Kuwait, beside we already know that the Israelie's have at least two of there Subs and 3 FFG in the Arabian Sea. If and when the attacks happen not very many of the Middle East Country's are going to really get all bent out of shape over it.
 
apdst posted (I say we give the Israelis the green light.)


I do not imagine that Israel need the permission of the US to do whatever they think is in the best interest of Israel.
 
Scorpion89 said:
Actually it would considering that the following Middle East Countries have stated that they will not stop Israel from flying over there Countries.

Saudi Arabia,Jordon,Oman,Kuwait, beside we already know that the Israelie's have at least two of there Subs and 3 FFG in the Arabian Sea. If and when the attacks happen not very many of the Middle East Country's are going to really get all bent out of shape over it.
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I'm more worried about the all out guerrilla war Iran will set forth in many countries. A fight with Iran will not be fought on a battlefield, it will be fought in the street with "soldiers" dressed up like civilians.
 
Gibberish said:
Because countries aren't willing to sanction based on speculation of aggressive behavior.
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If they see only speculation, then there's no way they'll ever do anything if Iran builds a weapon.


Ya I am sure that scenario will turn out great.
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What's going to happen? Muslim fanatics are going to hate the Israelis? Iran's going to invade Iran?

Gibberish said:
I'm more worried about the all out guerrilla war Iran will set forth in many countries. A fight with Iran will not be fought on a battlefield, it will be fought in the street with "soldiers" dressed up like civilians.
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That's why all these namby-pamby ROE's that have been established and the whining from the Leftists about collateral damage has had a negative effect both for the civilians and our soldiers. What's been created, is an environment that enables and encourages the enemy to dress up like civilians.
 
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Gibberish said:
In any case this is farther then the isolationist policies of the last administration got us.
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This is absolutely unsupportable.
 
apdst said:
If they see only speculation, then there's no way they'll ever do anything if Iran builds a weapon.
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That makes no sense. They see speculation because nothing is proven. If something is proven then speculation is replaced with fact.

apdst said:
What's going to happen? Muslim fanatics are going to hate the Israelis? Iran's going to invade Iran?
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Your quite naive if you believe that Iran, along with all anti-Israel Muslims in the ME, will not lash out in any way possible if we or Israel attacks them.


apdst said:
That's why all these namby-pamby ROE's that have been established and the whining from the Leftists about collateral damage has had a negative effect both for the civilians and our soldiers. What's been created, is an environment that enables and encourages the enemy to dress up like civilians.
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These terrorists dress up like civilians because they cannot hope to survive otherwise. They stand no chance in open combat against America or really any country for that matter. Your thought that terrorists dress up like civilians because Leftists whine is delusional.
 
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