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    Egypt set to ban Bhurka

    BBC NEWS | Middle East | Egypt cleric 'to ban full veils'

    Egypt's highest Muslim authority has said he will issue a religious edict against the growing trend for full women's veils, known as the niqab.

    Sheikh Mohamed Tantawi, dean of al-Azhar university, called full-face veiling a custom that has nothing to do with the Islamic faith.

    Although most Muslim women in Egypt wear the Islamic headscarf, increasing numbers are adopting the niqab as well.

    The practice is widely associated with more radical trends of Islam.
    The niqab question reportedly arose when Sheikh Tantawi was visiting a girls' school in Cairo at the weekend and asked one of the students to remove her niqab.

    The Egyptian newspaper al-Masri al-Yom quoted him expressing surprise at the girl's attire and telling her it was merely a tradition, with no connection to religion or the Koran.
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    Re: Egypt set to ban Bhurka

    I think if people wish to wear these things, they should be free to wear them. The bans are reactions to problems without addressing the actual problem.
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    Re: Egypt set to ban Bhurka

    You need to educate people and that is often hard when the main education source is religious schools who have a vested interest in keeping the status quo. We had the same problem in Christianity for centuries. It was only when governments took education away from the Church that things began to change.
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    Re: Egypt set to ban Bhurka

    Government is the solution then eh? No, what you said is ridiculous. It's when religion divorced itself from government that things got better. There's plenty of very good religious based education. Catholic school and the sorts which have major religious components, but also provide a good, well rounded education. It isn't religion itself which was the problem, it was theocracy which was the true villain.
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    Re: Egypt set to ban Bhurka

    Finally they're doing something against those ugly blankets that have nothing to do with religion.
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    Re: Egypt set to ban Bhurka

    There are exceptions though!

    Exceptions:
    1. MUST be worn when photographing for driver's license.

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    Re: Egypt set to ban Bhurka

    It'll be a shock to women who have worn these their whole lives, to suddenly not be allowed to wear them. Just when does the government get to decide what a person does and doesn't wear? The niqab isn't an issue of public safety so the government should stay out of it.

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    Re: Egypt set to ban Bhurka

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    BBC NEWS | Middle East | Egypt cleric 'to ban full veils'



    The niqab question reportedly arose when Sheikh Tantawi was visiting a girls' school in Cairo at the weekend and asked one of the students to remove her niqab.

    The Egyptian newspaper al-Masri al-Yom quoted him expressing surprise at the girl's attire and telling her it was merely a tradition, with no connection to religion or the Koran.
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    Re: Egypt set to ban Bhurka

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    The niqab isn't an issue of public safety so the government should stay out of it.
    Sexual discrimination in the work place is not a matter of public safety either. Should a private enterprise be free of government intervention if it wishes to discriminate against women? If not then why can private individuals be allowed to oppress women by forcing them to wear a bee keepers uniform since puberty?

    Oh and for those asserting that it's a free choice, that is ridiculous, if these young girls refused to wear this oppressive garment they would be beaten or killed as evidenced by numerous examples even here in the west with a relatively moderate Muslim population.
    Last edited by Agent Ferris; 10-05-09 at 05:06 PM.

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    Re: Egypt set to ban Bhurka

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I think if people wish to wear these things, they should be free to wear them. The bans are reactions to problems without addressing the actual problem.
    The term "free" is the rub. If the things are allowed, a lot of families will no doubt compel their women to wear them.

    This is after all, a coutry, perhaps one of the major countries, where female circumcision is practiced.

    Like so many things in government, people are trying to balance one freedom against another.
    Last edited by Oftencold; 10-05-09 at 05:01 PM.
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