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    Re: Egypt set to ban Bhurka

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    Is it a religion, though?

    The underlying problem cannot be resolved unless we intend to reducate them all, for the love of God. What else do you propose? Public awareness programmes? Please!
    I never endorse PC reeducation as a solution. The underlying problem is the theocracy and that the laws in general allow for the oppression of certain parts of the population. The solution is a secular government based on the rights and liberties of the individual. Once you open the system to allow people to do as they like, they can make the choices themselves. And if somehow they are forced into a line of action, they'll have legal recourse to correct it.
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    Re: Egypt set to ban Bhurka

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I never endorse PC reeducation as a solution. The underlying problem is the theocracy and that the laws in general allow for the oppression of certain parts of the population.
    What are you referring to? You mean, their theocracies?

    The solution is a secular government based on the rights and liberties of the individual. Once you open the system to allow people to do as they like, they can make the choices themselves. And if somehow they are forced into a line of action, they'll have legal recourse to correct it.
    Extremist Jihad is also an interpretation of Islam completely irrelevent to the Koran itself (except the Burqa Muslims acknolwedge there customs are irrelevant to the religion). I suppose we should support their customs too and stop the opression of that sect of society also? Although sometimes after talking to these people i wonder if there is much difference anyway.
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    Re: Egypt set to ban Bhurka

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    What are you referring to? You mean, their theocracies?
    In general any theocracy, but the thread was about Egypt. If the religion itself is making the rule, that's fine. It's the religion evolving and changing its rules. If the government makes a law say banning a bhurka, not only is it an infringement upon religious expression but it doesn't do anything to address the real problems in a theocratic government (or anti-theocratic government). I don't support rounding people up and sending them to a reeducation camp though. That won't solve the problem, that's just tyranny. To properly address the problems, you need secular government built on the rights and liberties of the individual.

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    Extremist Jihad is also an interpretation of Islam completely irrelevent to the Koran itself (except the Burqa Muslims acknolwedge there customs are irrelevant to the religion). I suppose we should support their customs too and stop the opression of that sect of society also? Although sometimes after talking to these people i wonder if there is much difference anyway.
    I'm not 100% sure what you're talking about here. The government doesn't get to make rules about which religions are proper and which ones aren't. If a sect has adopted rules for their religious expression, then less they are infringing upon the rights of others there's nothing you can do about it. If they are, and those aren't enforced through State law, then there is always legal recourse to rectify it. Banning the item does nothing.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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