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ElBaradei says nuclear Israel number one threat to Mideast: report

SE102 said:
I'd feel sorry for the Iranian soldiers that die in that war.:mrgreen:
When's the last time you heard of an Iranian soldier shooting a little kid and causing a suicide bomb?

zing
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Iran supports Hamas and Hezbollah.
 
SE102 said:
Israel wages a daily war on palestine and its civilians btw.
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Yes, Israel does all the fighting, the Palestinians are all completely innocent :roll:
 
LoL I feel like If i lived under the same situations as a palestinian Id be looking for a way to fight. I would say ( and so would many good sources ) that palestinians are quite tolerant despite the extent of israeli actions against them. Someone needs to help them out. ;)

Hezbollah hasn't committed a terrorist act in decades.


And they rain rockets on homes its true. But Israelis knock homes and villages in half (literally) with an illegal wall and illegal territory grabs.

But arguments about the palestinian israeli situation are best had for another thread.


Nice to meet you

pyoo pyoo
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SE102 said:
LoL I feel like If i lived under the same situations as a palestinian Id be looking for a way to fight.
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And if you would have embraced terrorism, you'd be hunted down and destroyed.
that palestinians are quite tolerant despite the extent of israeli actions against them.
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I believe Israel has been quite tolerant to the Palestinians despite the war of annihilation they called on it in 1948, and the continued acts of terror and murdering of civilians.
And they rain rockets on homes its true. But Israelis knock homes and villages in half (literally) with an illegal wall and illegal territory grabs
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In response to rockets, yeah, so let's keep firing those. :doh
 
SE102 said:
Israel wages a daily war on palestine and its civilians btw.
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WRONG. Israel fights a daily war against Hamas. Hamas is a terrorist group. I suggest you learn the difference between terrorists and civilians.

SE102 said:
You failed to do you research: Hezbollah has not committed an act of terror in decades.
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WRONG.

Kidnapping Gilad Shilat is a terrorist act. Interfering in the government of Lebanon is a terrorist act.
 
SE102 said:
Hezbollah hasn't committed a terrorist act in decades.
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In the Second Lebanon war (2006) it started the conflict by kidnapping two soldiers and then launching rocket barrages at Israeli cities with the intent to murder civilians.
 
Apocalypse said:
In the Second Lebanon war (2006) it started the conflict by kidnapping two soldiers and then launching rocket barrages at Israeli cities with the intent to murder civilians.
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Kidnapped because they intended to free palestinian men held without trial.

Vader said:
WRONG. Israel fights a daily war against Hamas. Hamas is a terrorist group. I suggest you learn the difference between terrorists and civilians.
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Doh my irony meter over modern history's wars just explodinated. Halucinating... MAI LAI... over again... pant wheeze cough


"And they rain rockets on homes its true. But Israelis knock homes and villages in half (literally) with an illegal wall and illegal territory grabs"

"In response to rockets, yeah, so let's keep firing those."

Pfft, cause the rational thing to do to stop a rocket that flies hundreds of feet in the air is build a cement wall. You just proved against yourself that the actions israel takes are not to defend itself but marginalise palestine.


"I believe Israel has been quite tolerant to the Palestinians..."

It's like you don't get that israel is an expansionist zionist state who believes that it has the right to all the land that the palestinians occupy thus expanding itself aggressively through the use of neighborhood projects geographically designed to undermine the economy of the palestinians. They don't allow aid to enter the country they don't allow imports or exports to happen and they are poor as dirt as a result. They control the utilities, like the electricity and the water and they shut them on and off with impunity. You don't get that the israeli army is made up of conscripted racist kids who run over cars with their tanks out of mean-spiritedness, who take pot shots at the civilians of palestine over the walls of the security fence - daily - so they cannot farm the lands they have occupied for centuries.

I watch BBC and Al-jazeera because al-jazeeras foreign corespondency is superior to any domestic american service (who simply do not have the money for a good number of foreign correspondents)
 
But yeah nice to meet you guys. Does anybody wanna stop talking about this?:rofl
 
Hey Look Folks it's another poor misguide:funny Moderated :2funny: Arab

So the next thing your going to tell all of us is Hamas and Hezballa are just a bunch misguide youths :eek:
 
SE102 said:
Kidnapped because they intended to free palestinian men held without trial.
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Lebanese, but thanks for showing your ignorance on the subject.
This however does not justify starting a war and deliberately launching rockets at civilians.
Pfft, cause the rational thing to do to stop a rocket that flies hundreds of feet in the air is build a cement wall. You just proved against yourself that the actions israel takes are not to defend itself but marginalise palestine.
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No such proof was given.
I was speaking about the retaliation of Israeli forces and their attack on Hamas targets after 8 years of rockets launching on its citizens.
The wall is there to prevent terrorists from sneaking into Israeli borders and murdering civilians.
It's like you don't get that israel is an expansionist zionist state who believes that it has the right to all the land that the palestinians occupy thus expanding itself aggressively through the use of neighborhood projects geographically designed to undermine the economy of the palestinians.
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This BS is spewed by hateful people in order to spread their hate and cause more bloodshed.
Israel desires peace with its neighbors and it has made peace with Egypt and Jordan so your claims are nothing but acts of demonetization.
The current PM of Israel has announced that he would work towards the establishment of a state for the Palestinians and that he believes in peace.
They don't allow aid to enter the country they don't allow imports or exports to happen and they are poor as dirt as a result.
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Only to the Gaza Strip, not to the West Bank, and that's because the Gaza Strip is controlled by a terrorist organization that launches rockets to Israel, so Israel has every right in the world to place a blockade on them, as the US does in Cuba.
You don't get that the israeli army is made up of conscripted racist kids who run over cars with their tanks out of mean-spiritedness, who take pot shots at the civilians of palestine over the walls of the security fence - daily - so they cannot farm the lands they have occupied for centuries.
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So much hatred and lies in one post.
You are certainly not a believer in peace.
The only racist kid here is you.
I watch BBC and Al-jazeera because al-jazeeras foreign corespondency is superior to any domestic american service (who simply do not have the money for a good number of foreign correspondents)
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Al-Jazeera is a biased pro-Islamic news station that has celebrated the birthday of a known child murderer, Samir Kuntar.
No wonder you are so filled with hatred when you name this station as one of your favorites. :roll:
 
Scorpion89 said:
Hey Look Folks it's another poor misguide:funny Moderated :2funny: Arab

So the next thing your going to tell all of us is Hamas and Hezballa are just a bunch misguide youths :eek:
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I just don't get it how those posters can actually call themselves Liberal and justify terrorism at the same time.
 
I didn't mean to justify terror my intention was to show that it was in retaliation for an injustice. I do not support hamas or hezbollah.

You don't get that the israeli army is made up of conscripted racist kids who run over cars with their tanks out of mean-spiritedness, who take pot shots at the civilians of palestine over the walls of the security fence - daily - so they cannot farm the lands they have occupied for centuries.

So much hatred and lies in one post.
You are certainly not a believer in peace.
The only racist kid here is you.


Where were the lies there? And you sound like a self victimizing white person who gets called a racist alot. I never called anyone racist. You must think I am a racist against Jews, which would have to be false, I have made love to 2 jews, been to a jewish wedding and have had many jewish friends, so don't say I hate anyone. BTW did someone call me an arab are you guys:rofl racists?


This is why I like aljazeera:
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChL7zoKdXXs"]YouTube - Israelis' views on Obama and the peace process - 21 Sept 09[/ame]

Also. Some of the most fertile farmland in palestine cannot be farmed, it is occupied by the israeli military for security reasons. Local former farmers are frequently sniped at over the walls. Sure they're out of range. But its hella fun im sure.
 
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQXecLyureE"]YouTube - Israeli Terrorism in Gaza - Farming Under Fire[/ame]

just watchem get shot at.
 
Moderator's Warning:
Two things. SE102. If you are going to post propaganda like you did, I would advise you to post links to information...or not post it at all. And be aware of our hate speech rule, too.

And Scorpion. Please be aware that ANY personal attacks are NOT tolerated.

And as always, all issues with moderation are to be handled through PM or the dispute form, NOT via public post.
 
SE102 said:
Where were the lies there?
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From the first word to the last.
And you sound like a self victimizing white person who gets called a racist alot.
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I would love to tell you how you sound like but unlike you I wasn't gifted with the ability to hear people through the computer.
I never called anyone racist.
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You just called Israeli soldiers 'a bunch of racist kids', are you senile?
This is why I like aljazeera:
YouTube - Israelis' views on Obama and the peace process - 21 Sept 09
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This must be gold for your generalization attitude.
And this is exactly the reason why Al-Jazeera are pro-Islamic terrorism, they center on the racist people while not showing the majority's opinion.
Also, during the Election in the US the news channels showed racist opinions of Americans in the streets towards Obama, so I really can't see your point unless you're seeking to generalize and demonize. (Which you obviously do.)

Perhaps you'd also like this video made by Al-Jazeera:
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIkrQGz5ats"]YouTube - Al Jazeera Throws Party for Child Killer (Samir Kuntar)[/ame]
 
Vader said:
Good.

We do not need a terrorist in the UN. El Baradi is a disgrace.
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Please provide proof that El Baradi was or is a terrorist. I'll assume in advance that this is just more emotional hyperbole from you.
 
Apocalypse said:
From the first word to the last.
I would love to tell you how you sound like but unlike you I wasn't gifted with the ability to hear people through the computer.
You just called Israeli soldiers 'a bunch of racist kids', are you senile?
This must be gold for your generalization attitude.
And this is exactly the reason why Al-Jazeera are pro-Islamic terrorism, they center on the racist people while not showing the majority's opinion.
Also, during the Election in the US the news channels showed racist opinions of Americans in the streets towards Obama, so I really can't see your point unless you're seeking to generalize and demonize. (Which you obviously do.)

Perhaps you'd also like this video made by Al-Jazeera:
YouTube - Al Jazeera Throws Party for Child Killer (Samir Kuntar)
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I meant i called no-one on this forum a racist.
And its strange how you assume that israeli soldiers who commonly commit human rights violations against civilians aren't committing race crimes.

Theres your source on israeli racism.
‘Marriage to an Arab is national treason’ - Israel News, Ynetnews

Why would you hold it against CNN that people held racist views on obama. It happens to be true for a few, you may be under the impression that they generalise that to all who voted against him. I hope you don't

And I've nevar heard of this Kuntar guy he sounds like a creep for sure. I only watch al-jazeera international. I'll keep it in mind.


I dont justify terrorism, I just don't agree with the conditions that cause it.
 
SE102 said:
I meant i called no-one on this forum a racist.
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I can think of 5 people right now that you've just named 'Racist'.
And its strange how you assume that israeli soldiers who commonly commit human rights violations against civilians aren't committing race crimes.
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No, what's strange is that you assume that Israeli soldiers are committing race crimes out of the blue.
Theres your source on israeli racism.
‘Marriage to an Arab is national treason’ - Israel News, Ynetnews
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No society is free from racism.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIgG3qvcUX8"]YouTube - Reporter Asks Strangers if they'd Shake Hands With a Jew[/ame]
Why would you hold it against CNN that people held racist views on obama. It happens to be true for a few, you may be under the impression that they generalise that to all who voted against him. I hope you don't
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I did not 'hold it against the CNN', I was proving you that there are minorities in every nation that hold racist views.
You choose to take Al-Jazeera's biased questioning of people in the streets, obviously editing and picking the most racist views(As they themselves said and had no problem to admit it), and then generalize and blame the entire Israeli society with racism towards blacks.
Please do read some articles about "Operation Moses".
And I've nevar heard of this Kuntar guy he sounds like a creep for sure. I only watch al-jazeera international. I'll keep it in mind.
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Al-Jazeera international is managed by Al-Jazeera.
I dont justify terrorism, I just don't agree with the conditions that cause it.
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The only thing that causes terrorism is the people's willingness to kill innocents in order to promote a political/religious/hateful cause.
 
Originally Posted by SE102
I meant i called no-one on this forum a racist.
I can think of 5 people right now that you've just named 'Racist'.
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If I have somehow called you and others racist then you have some sort of self victimization problem and it is probably endemic to most americans who hold views like yours. If you think Im calling you a racist by exercising my freedom of speech without naming or labeling or accusing anyone of racial bias.

obviously editing and picking the most racist views(As they themselves said and had no problem to admit it)
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You need to learn that they had no trouble finding open racists, if you had read the article I linked you would know that Israel is a tremendously racist place. Not limited to a minority but majority racist. It's not easy for some people to come to terms with that.

No, what's strange is that you assume that Israeli soldiers are committing race crimes out of the blue.
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Crimes against civilians are a common problem.

No society is free from racism.
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Hrrm.

The only thing that causes terrorism is the people's willingness to kill innocents in order to promote a political/religious/hateful cause.
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The origins that produced these causes must be considered. It's obvious that the jews and arabs hate each other, and I confess that my stereotype to those who tilt towards israel that they see this hatred on the part of arabs probably see it as some sort of irrational hatred without analyzing the source. I mean ****, if I found the genetic ancestors of those who occupied the autonomous uighur republic 1500 years ago and gave them their own state there while displacing a whole populace forcing them into refugee status, you'd see violence there too.
 
SE102 said:
If I have somehow called you and others racist then you have some sort of self victimization problem and it is probably endemic to most americans who hold views like yours. If you think Im calling you a racist by exercising my freedom of speech without naming or labeling or accusing anyone of racial bias.
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Except one little item you seem to have missed Apocalype isn't an American he is from Israel :doh As for your most American views so now your an expert on American also wow a Moderate Arab who is an expert on American Society :shock:


SE102 said:
You need to learn that they had no trouble finding open racists, if you had read the article I linked you would know that Israel is a tremendously racist place. Not limited to a minority but majority racist. It's not easy for some people to come to terms with that.
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So you have lived in/do Israel and can provide actual proof and links not Arab Propoganda that Israel is a "TREMENDOUSLY RACIST PLACE". I'll be waiting with baited breath for this proof. :2wave:
 
SE102 said:
LoL I feel like If i lived under the same situations as a palestinian Id be looking for a way to fight. I would say ( and so would many good sources ) that palestinians are quite tolerant despite the extent of israeli actions against them. Someone needs to help them out. ;)
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Palestinians are not tolerant, they are Jew hating, Christian hating, any other religion other than puritanical Islam hating neo-fascists.

Hezbollah hasn't committed a terrorist act in decades.
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You don't know what the hell you're talking about, they have fired numerous rockets into Israel in violation of the ceasefire, Israel has been more than restrained with regards to it's responses to Hezbollah terrorism.
 
Agent Ferris said:
Palestinians are not tolerant, they are Jew hating, Christian hating, any other religion other than puritanical Islam hating neo-fascists.
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Your generalization is not conducive to intelligent discourse.
 
EgoffTib said:
Your generalization is not conducive to intelligent discourse.
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They voted in mass for Hamas, Hamas calls for the genocide of the Jewish people right in their charter, most Palestinians in fact voted for the extermination of world Jewry, thus I can accurately come to the conclusion that they hate Jews. And the persecution of Christians in Gaza has reached epidemic proportions. Basing statements upon the actions of others is not a generalization it is reaching a conclusion based on empirical evidence.
 
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