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    Re: ElBaradei says nuclear Israel number one threat to Mideast: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    WRONG.

    It IS a racist term.

    It's also a violation of the martial law standard created by CaptainCourtesy.
    Again, it is not a racist term.

    Zionist is a term often heard, but it's not always understood. Many people assume that to be a Zionist, someone must also be Jewish, or conversely, that all Jews are Zionists. This is not the case.

    It appears that the term Zionist was coined in 1890 by Nathan Birnbaum, a Viennese scholar and intellectual. He used Zionist and Zionism to refer to what was basically a political movement, one that would result not only in the return of the Jewish people to their ancestral homeland in Palestine, but a return with political sovereignty.

    So, again, stop all of the ignorant hyperbole and start thinking things through before you post. I grow weary of watching nearly everyone of your posts look like this.
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    Re: ElBaradei says nuclear Israel number one threat to Mideast: report

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Complaints against the government or military (right or wrong) are still not against the existence of Israel. Sorry but your basis that he is against the existence of Israel is false given his comments.

    You may not like his comments, but your conclusion simply is not true given the previous comments.
    Where did I make the conclusion that he is against the entire existence of Israel(Something that is very possible nevertheless)?
    Either point me to where I've made that conclusion or refrain from making false assumptions.

    What I was saying, and I will repeat it, is that he is not merely against the Israeli policies (Army and government), but he is against Israelis themselves. ("IDF soldiers are a bunch of racist evil kids" = a cutting proof that he is not merely against the policies the army takes but the soldiers themselves)
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    Re: ElBaradei says nuclear Israel number one threat to Mideast: report

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    Again, it is not a racist term.

    Zionist is a term often heard, but it's not always understood. Many people assume that to be a Zionist, someone must also be Jewish, or conversely, that all Jews are Zionists. This is not the case.

    It appears that the term Zionist was coined in 1890 by Nathan Birnbaum, a Viennese scholar and intellectual. He used Zionist and Zionism to refer to what was basically a political movement, one that would result not only in the return of the Jewish people to their ancestral homeland in Palestine, but a return with political sovereignty.

    So, again, stop all of the ignorant hyperbole and start thinking things through before you post. I grow weary of watching nearly everyone of your posts look like this.
    I am an Irish-Amercan zionist, myself!
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    Re: ElBaradei says nuclear Israel number one threat to Mideast: report

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    Israel commits warcrimes against civilians on a daily (maybe weekly or monthly) basis. A FACT you need to deal with.
    Fact is that is not a fact.
    Shooting at civilians is precisely what many IDF soldiers do. It's probably not fun, its more likely in the stratum of a hate crime.
    Venezuelan soldiers seem to be murdering civilians on a daily basis, what is your feelings towards it?
    Did you know that they sneak up into rooms of civilians at night and slice their throat while they're sleeping?

    Two sides can play that way, I merely criticize Venezuela's actions.
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    Re: ElBaradei says nuclear Israel number one threat to Mideast: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    What I was saying, and I will repeat it, is that he is not merely against the Israeli policies (Army and government), but he is against Israelis themselves. ("IDF soldiers are a bunch of racist evil kids" = a cutting proof that he is not merely against the policies the army takes but the soldiers themselves)
    Soldiers are controlled by the government policies. Right or wrong he is complaining about the GOVERNMENT.

    Either way a claim was made that he was complaining about the existence of Israel. That claim is false.

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    Re: ElBaradei says nuclear Israel number one threat to Mideast: report

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Soldiers are controlled by the government policies. Right or wrong he is complaining about the GOVERNMENT.

    Either way a claim was made that he was complaining about the existence of Israel. That claim is false.
    You seem to have a deep, strong, reading comprehension problem.
    When he calls soldiers "a bunch of racist evil little kids" he's not complaining about policies, he is simply attacking the soldiers themselves and their personalities.
    Not one of the soldiers, not two, all of them.
    How is that not understandable?
    If I tell you "All of the workers in Google are lazy sons of bitches", I am attacking Google's workers, and not their policy.

    I am deeply surprised by your lack of the ability to draw assumptions from texts.
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    Re: ElBaradei says nuclear Israel number one threat to Mideast: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    You seem to have a deep, strong, reading comprehension problem.
    When he calls soldiers "a bunch of racist evil little kids" he's not complaining about policies, he is simply attacking the soldiers themselves and their personalities.
    Not one of the soldiers, not two, all of them.
    How is that not understandable?
    If I tell you "All of the workers in Google are lazy sons of bitches", I am attacking Google's workers, and not their policy.

    I am deeply surprised by your lack of the ability to draw assumptions from texts.
    Ah yes.

    So when someone refers negatively to the Nazis, that someone then hates all Germans!

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    Re: ElBaradei says nuclear Israel number one threat to Mideast: report

    ElBaradei is nothing more than a Muslim turncoat. He's a one man sleeper cell inside the nuclear commission. This was probably planned years ago, just like the UN is home to the world biggest despots.
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    Re: ElBaradei says nuclear Israel number one threat to Mideast: report

    Quote Originally Posted by creation View Post
    Ah yes.

    So when someone refers negatively to the Nazis, that someone then hates all Germans!
    A ridiculous and pathetic try at an off-reality analogy that has no shard of connection to my words in the quoted post, and can only be described as the unavoidable failure in truth denouncement.

    In order to crush your false analogy into pieces, destroy it, and send it to the place where it belongs and where no rational human being shall ever linger, it is sufficient to mention that the absolute majority of Germans are not Nazis.

    Furthermore, speaking of the IDF soldiers as "a bunch of racist evil kids" is a direct claim that IDF soldiers are racist and evil.
    This is an obvious attack on Israelis(And not only because the IDF is compulsory), and should never be referred to as "mere criticism" by he who is willing to keep a rational poster's credibility.
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    Re: ElBaradei says nuclear Israel number one threat to Mideast: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    You seem to have a deep, strong, reading comprehension problem.
    When he calls soldiers "a bunch of racist evil little kids" he's not complaining about policies, he is simply attacking the soldiers themselves and their personalities.
    Not one of the soldiers, not two, all of them.
    How is that not understandable?
    If I tell you "All of the workers in Google are lazy sons of bitches", I am attacking Google's workers, and not their policy.

    I am deeply surprised by your lack of the ability to draw assumptions from texts.
    Yes he is attacking SOLDIERS which are controlled by the GOVERNMENT. He is not attacking ALL Israelis, nor does that mean he is saying Israel doesn't have the right to exist. Right or wrong, his problem is with Isreals government and how it is acting.

    It is you with the reading comprehension problem, not me.
    Last edited by TheNextEra; 10-09-09 at 11:10 AM.

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