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    Re: ElBaradei says nuclear Israel number one threat to Mideast: report

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    Zionist is not a racist term...
    WRONG.

    It IS a racist term.

    It's also a violation of the martial law standard created by CaptainCourtesy.

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    Re: ElBaradei says nuclear Israel number one threat to Mideast: report

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    I'm sorry I frankly, having studied nuclear deterrence theory think that Iran has the right to deter a nuclear strike from Israel. This will keep either side from launching a nuke. Iran will not be able to launch a nuke without a guaranteed strike by a nuclear Israel. Neither side can fire. Two bad countries with bad nukes is better than one bad country with a nuke.( I studied it years ago Im prolly rusty but the concept is basic ) Sounds to me like alot of things people say around you probably strikes you as support for terrorists.
    If Iran gets nukes, terrorists will get nukes. Iran CANNOT be trusted.

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    Re: ElBaradei says nuclear Israel number one threat to Mideast: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    while providing none whatsoever yourself, I might point out.


    RAFSANJANI SAYS MUSLIMS SHOULD USE NUCLEAR WEAPON AGAINST ISRAL
    Rafsanjani needs a dirtnap!

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    Re: ElBaradei says nuclear Israel number one threat to Mideast: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    WRONG.

    It IS a racist term.

    It's also a violation of the martial law standard created by CaptainCourtesy.
    Please explain why zionist is a racist term. The definition has nothing to do with race:

    Main Entry: Zi·on·ism
    Pronunciation: \ˈzī-ə-ˌni-zəm\
    Function: noun
    Date: 1896

    : an international movement originally for the establishment of a Jewish national or religious community in Palestine and later for the support of modern Israel

    — Zi·on·ist \-nist\ adjective or noun

    — Zi·on·is·tic \ˌzī-ə-ˈnis-tik\ adjective

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    Re: ElBaradei says nuclear Israel number one threat to Mideast: report

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    So a racist, expansionist, zionist state whose military, that has shown little to no problem with committing warcrimes against civilians cannot be allowed to strike under any circumstance.
    Besides Zionist, I do not understand how any of this is related to the mentioned state.
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    Re: ElBaradei says nuclear Israel number one threat to Mideast: report

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    So a racist, expansionist, zionist state whose military, that has shown little to no problem with committing warcrimes against civilians cannot be allowed to strike under any circumstance.
    This is -exactly- what I was looking for.
    The REAL porblem isn't Israeli nukes, its the mere existence of Israel itself.

    Thanks for playing.
    Last edited by Goobieman; 10-08-09 at 02:09 PM.

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    Re: ElBaradei says nuclear Israel number one threat to Mideast: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    This is -exactly- what I was looking for.
    The REAL porblem isn't Israeli nukes, its the mere existence of Israel itself.

    Thanks for playing.
    Criticizing Israel's government and how it acts, is not the same as having a problem with the existence of Israel. I'm not saying SE102 comments are right, but they are aimed at the government of Israel (right or wrong), not the existence of Israel.

    Many conservatives have a problem with how Chavez and his government act, does that mean they hate the existence of Venezuela? Of course not.

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    Re: ElBaradei says nuclear Israel number one threat to Mideast: report

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Criticizing Israel's government and how it acts, is not the same as having a problem with the existence of Israel. I'm not saying SE102 comments are right, but they are aimed at the government of Israel (right or wrong), not the existence of Israel.
    Criticism is not criticism if it is not based on truth.
    Beyond that, his claims are not merely aimed at the Israeli government, read his posts more carefully, you'll find many claims such as "the IDF are a bunch of racist kids who kill Palestinians for fun" and stuff like that.
    One needs to separate criticism from demonizing and hate spreading if he is willing to maintain the legitimacy of the criticism.
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    Re: ElBaradei says nuclear Israel number one threat to Mideast: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Criticism is not criticism if it is not based on truth.
    Well then using that logic most of the "criticisms" from the right about Obama aren't really criticisms because they aren't based on truth either, but that is for another thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Beyond that, his claims are not merely aimed at the Israeli government, read his posts more carefully, you'll find many claims such as "the IDF are a bunch of racist kids who kill Palestinians for fun" and stuff like that.
    One needs to separate criticism from demonizing and hate spreading if he is willing to maintain the legitimacy of the criticism.
    Complaints against the government or military (right or wrong) are still not against the existence of Israel. Sorry but your basis that he is against the existence of Israel is false given his comments.

    You may not like his comments, but your conclusion simply is not true given the previous comments.

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    Re: ElBaradei says nuclear Israel number one threat to Mideast: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    This is -exactly- what I was looking for.
    The REAL porblem isn't Israeli nukes, its the mere existence of Israel itself.

    Thanks for playing.
    How have i implicated that its the existence of israel itself that is a problem.

    YOU may think that.

    YOU can go ahead thinking anyone who thinks similarly thinks that. You're just a oversensitive reactionist on your side.

    Israel commits warcrimes against civilians on a daily (maybe weekly or monthly) basis. A FACT you need to deal with.

    It must be your precious beautiful dove you cant stand to see get dirty.

    Shooting at civilians is precisely what many IDF soldiers do. It's probably not fun, its more likely in the stratum of a hate crime.

    Thanks for playing... badly.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mJp5d3ffP8"]YouTube - Israeli T-shirts mock Gaza killings - 23 March 2009[/ame]
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