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    Re: Eight Soldiers killed in attack in AFG

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    I just did, the fact you don't like it is irrelevant.
    Incredible! You're making a comparison to a president who is afraid to support his own army on the battlefield to a hurricane. Simply astounding.
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    Re: Eight Soldiers killed in attack in AFG

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    Incredible! You're making a comparison to a president who is afraid to support his own army on the battlefield to a hurricane. Simply astounding.
    He's not afraid to support his own Army, that is your own ridiculous spin on it. There is a chain of command and he uses it. But then I guess some don't believe in the chain of command.

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    Re: Eight Soldiers killed in attack in AFG

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    He's not afraid to support his own Army, that is your own ridiculous spin on it. There is a chain of command and he uses it. But then I guess some don't believe in the chain of command.
    He's not using the chain of command. He's yet to even make a decision. He's a leader, or supposed to be, anyway. Before he can utilize his chain of command, he must first make a decision. Has he done that, yet?
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    Re: Eight Soldiers killed in attack in AFG

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    He's not using the chain of command. He's yet to even make a decision. He's a leader, or supposed to be, anyway. Before he can utilize his chain of command, he must first make a decision. Has he done that, yet?
    Again, just because you don't see EVERY word Obama says does not mean he isn't making decisions. You let your own hatred of Obama blind you.

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    Re: Eight Soldiers killed in attack in AFG

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Again, just because you don't see EVERY word Obama says does not mean he isn't making decisions. You let your own hatred of Obama blind you.
    He's already said that he refuses to send more assets to Afghanistan, before he makes and indepth study of the strategy. That's a fact.

    Another fact, is that he's more interested in wasting time chasing after the Olympics and taking his ole lady to supper for their anniversary.
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    Re: Eight Soldiers killed in attack in AFG

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    He's not afraid to support his own Army, that is your own ridiculous spin on it. There is a chain of command and he uses it. But then I guess some don't believe in the chain of command.
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    Re: Eight Soldiers killed in attack in AFG

    Quote Originally Posted by theangryamerican View Post
    "You know what the chain of command is? It's the chain I go get and beat you with till you understand who's in rutting command here"
    Where is that line from?
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    Re: Eight Soldiers killed in attack in AFG

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I don't think you can make the comparison.
    You absolutely can make the comparison. As much as people like to imagine that the president is in charge of making all sorts of decisive decisions and effecting massive action plans, the reality is that the vast majority of these things are handled by the federal bureaucracy - that's why it's there.

    It's entirely possible for Obama to go to date night, campaign for the Olympics, and hang out with his kids while also doing everything that his role requires to address the situation in Afghanistan. Similarly, it's entirely possible for Bush to read to school children and play the guitar while still doing everything that his role requires to address the situation in NO or NY. It was unfair when rabid liberals attacked Bush for that, and it's unfair when rabid conservatives do it to Obama.
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    Re: Eight Soldiers killed in attack in AFG

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    You absolutely can make the comparison. As much as people like to imagine that the president is in charge of making all sorts of decisive decisions and effecting massive action plans, the reality is that the vast majority of these things are handled by the federal bureaucracy - that's why it's there.
    No, you can't make the comparison, because post-Hurricane Katrian, Bush was waiting on Kathy Blanco to make the official request for Federal troops to assist local and state units in the rescue/recovery operations. Not the other way around, like in Afghanistan.

    PBO isn't sitting in DC saying, "The troops are ready to go, General, you just tell me when to kick them off".
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    Re: Eight Soldiers killed in attack in AFG

    So far the president seems to have voted "present" on the issue which would have to be disheartening to the troops on the ground. Suppose Gen McCrystal, instead of asking for more troops had simply announced that he wasn't sure what to do about Afganistan. That would be great for morale. Instead his boss is doing it.I can see arguments for more troops and for far less. But I don't see any merit in indecision.

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