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    Re: Ireland votes 'yes' to EU and Lisbon

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    In short words, can someone explain to me the major consequences of this vote?
    No..

    Nobody can, and if they claim they can, then they lie..
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    Re: Ireland votes 'yes' to EU and Lisbon

    Although I don't like the european union, it just makes me all giddy inside to see all the europeans fight it out amongst themselves. America sure as hekll ain't the only country that's ****ed permanently now.

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    Re: Ireland votes 'yes' to EU and Lisbon

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    No..

    Nobody can, and if they claim they can, then they lie..
    tony blair is made president

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    Re: Ireland votes 'yes' to EU and Lisbon

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    In short words, can someone explain to me the major consequences of this vote?
    It means that its pretty much guaranteed that the treaty will be ratified by all EU member states.

    The rest depends where your from, if your in the UK then we're being told its only an administrative change, and is definitely not a consitution.

    Elsewhere in Europe, it is a consitution except its not called a consitution so that other states will play along, and its the beginning of a European Superstate, the first steps being the creation of the foreign office, greater budget control, and president.

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    Re: Ireland votes 'yes' to EU and Lisbon

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    In short words, can someone explain to me the major consequences of this vote?
    Yes mate I feel smug and happy

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    Re: Ireland votes 'yes' to EU and Lisbon

    Quote Originally Posted by B L Zeebub View Post
    tony blair is made president
    Easy prediction.. Even if 90% of Europeans is against him as president.. Personally I am against presidents and other political titles.. I hate for Europe to have a president, and I would die for it not to be someone like Tony Blair.
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    Re: Ireland votes 'yes' to EU and Lisbon

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkWizard12 View Post
    Although I don't like the european union, it just makes me all giddy inside to see all the europeans fight it out amongst themselves. America sure as hekll ain't the only country that's ****ed permanently now.
    I am pro-European, but the creation of a president post is not to my liking at all, and much of the content and applications of the Lisbon treaty is not to my liking either.

    I want a different Europe, not another corrupt capitalist "democratic" state.

    PS. Europe is not a country
    Europe is illegally occupied by the US

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    Re: Ireland votes 'yes' to EU and Lisbon

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Easy prediction.
    in response to a daft statement.

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    Re: Ireland votes 'yes' to EU and Lisbon

    Quote Originally Posted by Elena View Post
    Don't. Don't bet.

    As a prerequisite to these countries joining the EU they destroyed their industry and agriculture left from their Soviet past; also they surrendered their financial systems to EU. Ever wondered why? Because they were meant to be EU internal colonies supplying Old Europe with cheap labour and buying the goods produced by Old Europe...


    Their industries were dead no matter what. 5 decades of communist rule tends to leave marks.

    If anything what is left was saved because of joining the EU and aid from the EU. Like it or not Poland and the Cezch republic have had massive economic growth since joining the EU. We are talking growth that is rivalling that of China in some cases.

    As for supplying "Old Europe" with cheap labour... exactly how? A pole coming to say the UK or Spain has to be paid the same as a citizen of that country. They can not be paid less than the minimum wage. If they are, then it is illegal and people should report it. They also pay taxes in said countries and contribute to those countries various social systems. So unless companies are breaking the law (which they do, but that is another matter) then there should not be any issues about "cheap labour" as it is the free market. Are you against the free market? And why blame the Poles or what not, for the illegal actions of companies and the lack of regulation and enforcement by local government?

    As for buying goods produced in Old Europe.. get real. If anything we are buying goods from Poland and so on here! My Lidel bacon is Polish, my juice is Polish and so on. If I buy a new car, chances are its made in the Czech Republic even though it is German or French.

    At least you could be realistic and be pissed over that companies move production to places like Poland where wages are lower.. that I can understand, but what you have come up with is a load of bs.
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    Re: Ireland votes 'yes' to EU and Lisbon

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post


    Their industries were dead no matter what. 5 decades of communist rule tends to leave marks.

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    Yes, decades of "communist" rule did leave the marks: that "dead no matter what" industries and agriculture were making sure the economies of "new Europeans" were self sufficient, and provided their populations with 100% guaranteed employment for life. And now those countries enjoy broken economies, and their people are like nomads traveling from country to country cleaning public toilets and picking strawberries just so they can send few quid back to their families that they don't see for months on end.

    Try to live that life before coming up with your snobbish remarks.

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