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    Re: US relinquishes control of the internet

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    But as I asked Orius earlier in the thread . . .

    If there's no particular advantage, then why would it be a bad idea for any one nation to control it? If there's no advantage, there's no ability to do harm.
    And I asked you, what are the advantages? You still haven't answered my question.

    If it's so worth having a monopoly over, then why is it worth it? This is the question I pose to you.

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    Re: US relinquishes control of the internet

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Multinational bodies don't work like that. Most of them are exceedingly corrupt.
    I'm not referring to an intergovernmental organization here, just a multinational organization with root servers in many countries that doesn't answer directly to any governments.

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    Besides . . . aren't there an awful lot of things for which you can make that argument? Should we ask the oil-producing countries to give up control of their oil fields?
    No, as natural resources are their source of income. To the best of my knowledge, the US government does not derive income from selling the internet to other nations. Furthermore, in your analogy, giving up control of their oil fields would mean that they no longer had that oil. Giving up control of the internet would not mean that we no longer had the internet.

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    Why bet on any government at all, if no governance is necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw
    But as I asked Orius earlier in the thread . . .

    If there's no particular advantage, then why would it be a bad idea for any one nation to control it? If there's no advantage, there's no ability to do harm.
    I'm not sure what you mean. Are you saying that it's to the United States' advantage to control the internet in case we want to censor it some day?
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    Re: US relinquishes control of the internet

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    True, AL Gore succeeded in becoming VP.
    Yes. And he invented the internets and cured global warming, too.

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    Re: US relinquishes control of the internet

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Yes. And he invented the internets and cured global warming, too.
    And you know better...smartass.
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    Re: US relinquishes control of the internet

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I'm not referring to an intergovernmental organization here, just a multinational organization with root servers in many countries that doesn't answer directly to any governments.
    There aren't many countries which wouldn't want to take direct control of the root servers within them.

    I like them here.



    No, as natural resources are their source of income. To the best of my knowledge, the US government does not derive income from selling the internet to other nations. Furthermore, in your analogy, giving up control of their oil fields would mean that they no longer had that oil. Giving up control of the internet would not mean that we no longer had the internet.
    They would have access to the oil, only on the same terms as any other country.

    Doesn't matter if the US government derives income or not.



    Why bet on any government at all, if no governance is necessary?
    Because the idea that other countries would leave their part of it ungoverned is demonstrably naive. Look at what other countries already do.


    I'm not sure what you mean. Are you saying that it's to the United States' advantage to control the internet in case we want to censor it some day?
    If we keep control, we can never be censored or denied access. And yes, if a situation warranted it, denial of access to another nation would be a tremendous advantage. It could end a war rather quickly, and with less bloodshed, for example.
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    Re: US relinquishes control of the internet

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    And I asked you, what are the advantages? You still haven't answered my question.

    If it's so worth having a monopoly over, then why is it worth it? This is the question I pose to you.
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    Re: US relinquishes control of the internet

    US dominance of the internet --- Solution: build your own darn internet.


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    Re: US relinquishes control of the internet

    Of course, the question which has not been answered in the thread is . . .

    Why shouldn't "one country" -- the United States -- maintain control? Talking about concrete reasons, not some vague platitude about "no one country should have control" -- why not, specifically?
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    Re: US relinquishes control of the internet

    So we should maintain control out of political paranoia, all the while squandering the proliferation of global business?

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    Re: US relinquishes control of the internet

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    It appears that these days with this adminstration and with Democrats in charge, doing fantastically stupid things is becoming the norm.

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