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    Re: US relinquishes control of the internet

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    The economy is globalizing but the way the internet works is not. An example from the article is that countries want to be able to type web addresses in their own language, and not have to rely on the latin alphabet. The relinquishing of some control will let the developers in other countries give their input into how the internet is organized and formatted... I don't see what's wrong with that.

    In today's world the internet connects everyone, so why should only one country get to determine its evolution? I personally welcome the innovation of other countries, it will make the internet way more interesting than it already is.
    I think you and I just see things differently. I don't mind one country coming out on top as long as it is my country. Cultural and economic conformity with us is one way to get to that end. Giving up our resources and what is truly a world wonder for others to guide is not going to help us in the long run. Let them compete with us, let them create their own internet (which would really just end up being a complex intranet within their own country), but do not give them control of our leverage.

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    Re: US relinquishes control of the internet

    The Internet is not something that can be controlled. It is owned by the individuals who own their computers, routers, and wiring. It can be made into a completely decentralized mesh, with wireless signal bouncing from one neighbor to another across continents!

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    Re: US relinquishes control of the internet

    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Libman View Post
    The Internet is not something that can be controlled. It is owned by the individuals who own their computers, routers, and wiring. It can be made into a completely decentralized mesh, with wireless signal bouncing from one neighbor to another across continents!
    Yeah that's a nice, happy hippy communey sentiment but the technical reality is that there is a telecom backbone to the internet and without it, it all comes crashing down.

    And we own that backbone.

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    Re: US relinquishes control of the internet

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    The advantages are obvious.

    If they weren't, you wouldn't be suggesting that no one country should control it.
    If they are obvious, you should be able to list them with no problem instead of evading the question.
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    Re: US relinquishes control of the internet

    The arguement that the US is giving away a powerful weapon or anything of the sort is hilarious. ICANN didn't give the US any kind of advantage, and if we ever tried to use it in such a manner it would be downright reprehensible.

    Still, I'm wary of international control over ICANN. There are many reasons to do so, and more every day due to the increasingly small minority of the internet that the US represents. Having ICANN be subject to US law, however, placed strong guarantees on free speech and expression that won't necessarily be upheld by an international organization. Depending on how much influence China and other such nations are able to garner they could certainly politicize the domain registration process and censor political speech. One can't jump to the conclusion that this will happen to what is currently a technical body, and I find it likely that principles condusive to a free and open internet will made binding when the shift does happen.

    There are concerns with subjecting ICANN to international oversight, but so long as it is done with a modicum of common sense it is the right thing to do.

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    Re: US relinquishes control of the internet

    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Libman View Post
    The Internet is not something that can be controlled. It is owned by the individuals who own their computers, routers, and wiring. It can be made into a completely decentralized mesh, with wireless signal bouncing from one neighbor to another across continents!
    No, it can't. If you have a viable replacement for DNS (which has a centralized, hierarchical structure) I'd love to hear it.

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    Re: US relinquishes control of the internet

    Quote Originally Posted by Kernel Sanders View Post
    No, it can't. If you have a viable replacement for DNS (which has a centralized, hierarchical structure) I'd love to hear it.
    DNS is the worst part of the Internet. From early FidoNet forks to bridging network connections between solar systems light-years apart, central control of dynamic networks is both undesirable and impossible to enforce.

    Whether a company owns its domain name record with the root nameserver monopoly is becoming ever less relevant as people use trusted search engines, bookmarks, and links to access their information. It is very simple to bypass the default authority and use another trusted authority instead -- and some browser plug-ins and P2P protocols do this already -- whether DNS based or otherwise.

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    Re: US relinquishes control of the internet

    Am I the only one who imagines the that negotiation process for this crap went something like this:


    US: We pwn teh internetz!

    World: We make our pwn internetz!

    US: I let u has some of my internetz!

    World: Rly? We can has some too?

    US: No, I wuz lying. pwnt, n00b!

    World: You suk!

    US: Just kidding, you can rly has some of my internetz.

    World: Rly?

    Us: Sure, but you gots 2 take Al Gore 2.

    World: Awwww.....

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    Re: US relinquishes control of the internet

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Jall....I gotta keep you honest here. Sorry. But you rail on people who misquote Palin e.g. "I can see Russia from my house"....
    and then you turn around and do the same thing yourself with Al Gore?

    C'mon Jall.....you're better than that.
    Chill Dude. If the living dead like me can recognize mild, harmless humor, then I'm sure you can.
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    Re: US relinquishes control of the internet

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    Chill Dude. If the living dead like me can recognize mild, harmless humor, then I'm sure you can.
    When that humor is aimed at Palin, you should watch some of you righties get all bent though.
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