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Chicago doesn't get 2016 Olympics

disneydude said:
If the USA basketball team loses in the Gold Medal round would you call that a loss for America or would you call it a loss for the 10 guys on the team?
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America won, we will not ask those in Chicago to pay more taxes to line the pockets of the chicago machine!

America won, because we all end up paying those bills.
 
Jackboot said:
America won, we will not ask those in Chicago to pay more taxes to line the pockets of the chicago machine!

America won, because we all end up paying those bills.
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Funny....LA, SLC and Atlanta all did quite well financially from the games.
Oh...those pesky little facts.
 
disneydude said:
Funny....LA, SLC and Atlanta all did quite well financially from the games.
Oh...those pesky little facts.
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And none of those are chicago............
 
Jackboot said:
And none of those are chicago............
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What makes you think that Chicago would not be as successful?
Why do you think most every major city would LOVE to have the games?
 
disneydude said:
What makes you think that Chicago would not be as successful?
Why do you think most every major city would LOVE to have the games?
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Unions....corruption......should I go on?

Romney actually had to come in and save the games in SLC, would you like to discuss that?
 
disneydude said:
Its just typical of the "I hate Obama" crowd. They want desperate to try to spin this as an Obama failure.

Sad that their hatred is so strong that they are happy that America didn't get the bid...as long as they can somehow try to tarnish Obama.

I've said it for a long time, they don't care if America fails...as long as Obama does.
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Where exactly did I express any joy or "I hate Obama" tones in that post?

I thought it was interesting that London put such a political spin on it, but never stated that I agree with their headline. I personally believe that the most deserving city won, and politics played little or no factor in their decision.

As for the CNN clip, I thought that was funny as hell. That anchor couldn't keep bias in check. Rio was the odds on favorite, as I'm sure he was aware of, yet he reacted in such utter disbelief. You could just hear it in his voice... He couldn't believe that after Obama had graced the Olympic Committee with his presence, that they didn't bow to his desires. You could just hear the "How dare they" in his voice.

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Grim17 said:
Where exactly did I express any joy or "I hate Obama" tones in that post?

I thought it was interesting that London put such a political spin on it, but never stated that I agree with their headline. I personally believe that the most deserving city won, and politics played little or no factor in their decision.

As for the CNN clip, I thought that was funny as hell. That anchor couldn't keep bias in check. Rio was the odds on favorite, as I'm sure he was aware of, yet he reacted in such utter disbelief. You could just hear it in his voice... He couldn't believe that after Obama had graced the Olympic Committee with his presence, that they didn't bow to his desires. You could just hear the "How dare they" in his voice.

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It was almost like he knew disney was watching....no?
 
disneydude said:
Funny....LA, SLC and Atlanta all did quite well financially from the games.
Oh...those pesky little facts.
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Athens lost money, and currently any city which takes the Olympics will end up losing money on the deal now.
 
Ikari said:
Athens lost money, and currently any city which takes the Olympics will end up losing money on the deal now.
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You base that on..?
 
Jackboot said:
Unions....corruption......should I go on?

Romney actually had to come in and save the games in SLC, would you like to discuss that?
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That's one of the main reasons I am a Romney fan, despite some of his positions.
 
Ikari said:
Athens lost money, and currently any city which takes the Olympics will end up losing money on the deal now.
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Not true. The Olympics generally make money in The United States. They are a bigger financial risk for some cities. Athens had to build a ton of facilities and infrastructure.
 
Apocalypse said:
You base that on..?
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On the fact that building everything necessary for the Olympics, security, transportation, etc. will take more money than that which a city can draw in during the Olympics.
 
Grim17 said:
Where exactly did I express any joy or "I hate Obama" tones in that post?

I thought it was interesting that London put such a political spin on it, but never stated that I agree with their headline. I personally believe that the most deserving city won, and politics played little or no factor in their decision.

As for the CNN clip, I thought that was funny as hell. That anchor couldn't keep bias in check. Rio was the odds on favorite, as I'm sure he was aware of, yet he reacted in such utter disbelief. You could just hear it in his voice... He couldn't believe that after Obama had graced the Olympic Committee with his presence, that they didn't bow to his desires. You could just hear the "How dare they" in his voice.

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Grim you aren't fooling anyone. You are happy that America lost as long as you can spin some failure onto Obama. That is typical of your posts.
 
disneydude said:
Not true. The Olympics generally make money in The United States. They are a bigger financial risk for some cities. Athens had to build a ton of facilities and infrastructure.
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The Olympics in the past have generated money for the host city. But costs rise, interest wanes and profits turn into losses.
 
Ikari said:
The Olympics in the past have generated money for the host city. But costs rise, interest wanes and profits turn into losses.
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Look at the history of the games. They always do better financially for North America than they do in other parts of the world.

For one, the main revenue source, TV contracts ALWAYS are larger when the games are in the North American Time Zone, especially when they are in the US.
 
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disneydude said:
Funny....LA, SLC and Atlanta all did quite well financially from the games.
Oh...those pesky little facts.
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Is this really true? I'm genuinely curious, because I thought that the Olympics occasionally failed to make much money once you include government spending.

The Atlanta Olympics followed the model established by the 1984 Olympic Games in Los Angeles. The cost to stage the Games was US$1.8 billion. Governmental funds were used for security, but not for the actual Games themselves.[1] To pay for the games, Atlanta relied on commercial sponsorship and ticket sales, resulting in a profit of $10 million.[2] It must also be stated that up to 500 million dollars of tax payer money was used on the physical infrastructure including streetscaping, road improvements, centennial park, expansion of airport, improvement in public transportation, and redevelopment of public housing projects.
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1996 Summer Olympics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
RightinNYC said:
Is this really true? I'm genuinely curious, because I thought that the Olympics occasionally failed to make much money once you include government spending.



1996 Summer Olympics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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I'm sure there is a lot of spin both ways.

I do know that the competition is fierce especially among US nominees to get the games.

LA and SLC resulted in large surplusses. I'm not sure about Atlanta, although from what I've read they were deemed a "success"...whatever that means.

It all depends on infrastructure. LA didn't really have to build a whole lot. Same with SLC. Athens on the other hand had to build major venues and transportation.
 
disneydude said:
Look at the history of the games. They always do better financially for North America than they do in other parts of the world.

For one, the main revenue source, TV contracts ALWAYS are larger when the games are in the North American Time Zone, especially when they are in the US.
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Chicago was looking at guaranteeing against losses with taxpayer money. While there is plenty of money to be made, the massive amount of infrastructure and security etc will now cost more than one will most likely bring it.
 
Ikari said:
Chicago was looking at guaranteeing against losses with taxpayer money. While there is plenty of money to be made, the massive amount of infrastructure and security etc will now cost more than one will most likely bring it.
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I'm not familiar with the Chicago bid indepthly. If they would have to build a lot of facilities, then yes, that would cost some money. However, Chicago likely would not have had to put in a lot of money for transportation and those types of expenses.
 
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