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    Re: Fidel Honoured

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Castro View Post
    Regardless of speed the fact is Cuban's live longer than the Latin American average, they even live longer than folks in Washington DC, not bad for an apparently evil communist entity.
    They lived longer BEFORE the revolution, the increase in life expectancy increased far more slowly AFTER the revolution than in most other Latin American countries.

    We also should not focus too much on healthcare as that is to diminish the other success' of the revolution.
    Such as, sex tourism, making Castro one of Forbes' richest men in the world, rampant poverty, lack of civil liberties, medical tourism etc etc et al.

    The scientific breakthroughs,
    Such as?

    the education system, the end of illiteracy,
    Literacy was already one of the highest in Latin America BEFORE the revolution.

    the cradle to grave security,
    Cradle the grave enslavement by the state.

    the development of the new man, the refinement of Marxist thought, It's battle and subsequent victory against apartheid,[/quote]

    You mean like entire areas of Cuban territory off limits to anyone but foreign tourists?
    the establishment of national sovereignty,
    And a complete lack of popular sovereignty.

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    Re: Fidel Honoured

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    They lived longer BEFORE the revolution, the increase in life expectancy increased far more slowly AFTER the revolution than in most other Latin American countries.
    It still doesn't negate from the fact that under the dreaded communism Cuba has life expectancy rates comparable with the biggest, richest, most powerful states on the planet.
    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Such as, sex tourism, making Castro one of Forbes' richest men in the world, rampant poverty, lack of civil liberties, medical tourism etc etc et al.
    And that list has long been discredited. They attributed Cuban resources to Fidel, but they were owned by the state, any profits the styate make are reinvested in Cuba. So it's nonsense, and known nonsense at that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Such as?
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/europe...post1058236054

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Literacy was already one of the highest in Latin America BEFORE the revolution.
    But that is not too deny what I said, regardless of what it was beforehand, the revolutions advancement in literacy is unparalleled.

    The National Literacy Campaign of 1961, recognized as one of the most successful initiatives of its kind, mobilized teachers, workers, and secondary school students to teach more than 700,000 persons how to read. This campaign reduced the illiteracy rate from 23% to 4% in the space of one year.

    American Experience | Fidel Castro | Views on Cuba | PBS

    The rest of what you said is really just slogans and irrelevancies.
    "His (Che Guevara) life is the story of our era's most perfect man" - Jean Paul Sartre

    FTQ

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    Re: Fidel Honoured

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    I have an aunt who sometimes goes there- no, not to the dressed-up touristy areas, but to the real, poverty-stricken island. She actually met a woman whose daughter died from a lack of medical care, but was not included in the statistics because that would make the Castro brothers look bad, and we can't have that now can we.
    Wow the ever reliable source of not second, but third hand accounts.
    "His (Che Guevara) life is the story of our era's most perfect man" - Jean Paul Sartre

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    Re: Fidel Honoured

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post
    OK, I did a little research and now I know who the ProstateWarrior was. He was the legendary medicine man of the Sioux Nation, Chief Longfinger. He was with Sitting Bull at Little Bighorn.

    They had gone there planning to offer Chief Longfinger's services to Custer and his troops, but Custer, typical of the US military's shoot first, ask questions later tedencies, started firing.

    Chief Longfinger, Chief Sitting Bull, and their traveling party were forced to defend themselves. That's the real story of Custer's Last Stand.
    Yeah, it's getting worse there, sparky. David Letterman detailing the entire Washington legislature's adulterous improprieties is funnier than this.

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    Re: Fidel Honoured

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    Yeah, it's getting worse there, sparky. David Letterman detailing the entire Washington legislature's adulterous improprieties is funnier than this.
    David Letterman? What brought him up? Is David Letterman a decendent of Chief Longfinger? Wow, that is interesting. Thx for letting me know. Do you have a link to something documenting this? I would be very interested in reading it.

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    Re: Fidel Honoured

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post
    David Letterman? What brought him up? Is David Letterman a decendent of Chief Longfinger? Wow, that is interesting. Thx for letting me know. Do you have a link to something documenting this? I would be very interested in reading it.

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    If this is the caliber of wit you can come up with, it's probably a good thing you stay out of the Basement, even if you're violating the Vegas rule and effectively expressing racist sentiments upstairs. That's probably preferable to the alternative.

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    Re: Fidel Honoured

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    Yeah, it's getting worse there, sparky. David Letterman detailing the entire Washington legislature's adulterous improprieties is funnier than this.
    Alright then I'll ask you lets see the proof I want Links also I want you to provide the GAO report showing that these thing did actually happen and the Congress repermended to the said Congress Men/Women who did what you are saying they did.

    I'll be waiting for these links

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    Re: Fidel Honoured

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    If this is the caliber of wit you can come up with, it's probably a good thing you stay out of the Basement, even if you're violating the Vegas rule and effectively expressing racist sentiments upstairs. That's probably preferable to the alternative.
    You must be drunk because you are not making any sense. What racist sentiments and what have I posted that could possibly break the Vegas rule?

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    Re: Fidel Honoured

    ...*facepalm*

    I might have a libertarian perspective on the Cuban administration to offer later, but as this thread is going down the drain quickly, why don't you two keep each other company for a while?

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    Re: Fidel Honoured

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    ...*facepalm*

    I might have a libertarian perspective on the Cuban administration to offer later, but as this thread is going down the drain quickly, why don't you two keep each other company for a while?
    Hmm so what you can't provide any links now can you , don't you just love it when you call someone to provide actual Facts and Links and that person either trysa to change the subject by side stepping the question(s) or my favorite I'll answer your question whne you answer mine, when I have already answer that person question in spades.

    So Agna you going ot provide the links I requested or you just another punk arse bitch who runs there mouth off. Time to put up of shut up.

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