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    Re: US Supreme Court agrees to decide whether Second Amendment forbids local handgun

    I don't see how the Bill of Rights is not applicable to the States. When the States signed on to the Republic, they accepted the Bill of Rights. Those rights have been specifically reserved by the People. It's like saying the federal government can't infringe on free speech, but if I want to say something I'd need the proper permit from the State government. It makes no sense.
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    Re: US Supreme Court agrees to decide whether Second Amendment forbids local handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I don't see how the Bill of Rights is not applicable to the States. When the States signed on to the Republic, they accepted the Bill of Rights. Those rights have been specifically reserved by the People. It's like saying the federal government can't infringe on free speech, but if I want to say something I'd need the proper permit from the State government. It makes no sense.
    Thats what the 14th amendment does -- officially applies the BoR to the actions of the states.

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    Re: US Supreme Court agrees to decide whether Second Amendment forbids local handgun

    Based on the current members of the SCOTUS, I think they will strike down bans against handgun ownership, which is consistent with the bill of rights.

    Strong regulation is necessary, especially in inner cities, but banning them violates our rights.

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    Re: US Supreme Court agrees to decide whether Second Amendment forbids local handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    The US Supreme Court is taking up the question on whether the Second Amendment forbids gun control. This is going to be a very interesting case, and if the Supremes rule according to the Constitution, you are going to see the overturning of gun laws in many states.

    Cross your fingers, folks. And as big of a Bush basher as I have been, I will grant him this - His choices for Supreme Court justices were excellent.

    If the court rules favorably against gun control, it WILL be Bush's fault, and I will be more than proud to say "Well done, Mr. President", for a change.

    Article is here.
    Hopefully if the SC rules according to the constitution then hopefully there will be another one challenging bans of other types of firearms.
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    Re: US Supreme Court agrees to decide whether Second Amendment forbids local handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Hopefully if the SC rules according to the constitution then hopefully there will be another one challenging bans of other types of firearms.
    It may very well be that the ruling will cover that, making additional cases unnecessary. It depends on what is argued.

    I believe, however, as has been optherwise noted, that the Heller decision isnt the issue, but the application of the 2nd to the states.

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    Re: US Supreme Court agrees to decide whether Second Amendment forbids local handgun

    if u haven't noticed, there hasn't been very many liberals in this thread.

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    Re: US Supreme Court agrees to decide whether Second Amendment forbids local handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkWizard12 View Post
    if u haven't noticed, there hasn't been very many liberals in this thread.
    I've noticed that the ranks of the fanatically anti-gun have thinned considerably, across the board.

    Of course, now its "reasonable" or "common sense" restrictions, designed to facilitate gun "safety". Not that their arguments to that effect are any more sound...

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    Re: US Supreme Court agrees to decide whether Second Amendment forbids local handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    I've noticed that the ranks of the fanatically anti-gun have thinned considerably, across the board.

    Of course, now its "reasonable" or "common sense" restrictions, designed to facilitate gun "safety". Not that their arguments to that effect are any more sound...
    I used to be one of them. I think uncontrolled arms isn't necessarily a good thing. Just because someone can afford their own nuclear silo does not mean they should get one. If it infringes upon public safety en mass, then it's not a weapon people should have.

    But scaling down to the more practical level... I don't see anything wrong with bearing arms. I do think registration should be mandatory though, mostly for criminal investigation purposes.

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    Re: US Supreme Court agrees to decide whether Second Amendment forbids local handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    Based on the current members of the SCOTUS, I think they will strike down bans against handgun ownership, which is consistent with the bill of rights.

    Strong regulation is necessary, especially in inner cities, but banning them violates our rights.

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    you do realize that regulation doesn't work, right?
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    Re: US Supreme Court agrees to decide whether Second Amendment forbids local handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    I've noticed that the ranks of the fanatically anti-gun have thinned considerably, across the board.

    Of course, now its "reasonable" or "common sense" restrictions, designed to facilitate gun "safety". Not that their arguments to that effect are any more sound...
    Though you do have to wonder how they'd react to the idea of gun safety education in the schools.
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